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Species extinction rate speeding up: 50,000 species a year
Minnesota Public Radio ^ | .... | Dan Olson,

Posted on 06/17/2007 8:36:46 AM PDT by rface

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To: rface
NPR is a liberal hotbed, and they're hinting like they'd like to cull out most of the humans except certain privileged ones who will be "good" for the environment.

The irony is that if humans became extinct, you ain't seen nothing yet in the way of what would become extinct, most of the cultivated plants because the weeds would choke them all out and pests (and the strongest predators) consume any that were left.

I think a lot of people are doing the best they can to strike a good balance between preserving the environment and quality of human life. Some are just quietly doing their own thing to make things better, not making some political brouhaha out of it.

Before there were any humans, when was that?, way way back, a lot of things went extinct. We do know that. Humans had NOTHING to do with it.

41 posted on 06/17/2007 9:51:07 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: chaos_5

<<< If you haven’t identified it how do you know it went extinct? >>>

You beat me to it!


42 posted on 06/17/2007 9:53:23 AM PDT by Never2baCrat (I used to be modest, now I'm perfect!)
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To: Redcloak

This is an old environazi tactic of saying that 50,000 species are perishing every year. And of course 49,999 of them are killed by the fact that SUV’s exist. What they are not saying is where this number came from. I had reserched it a few years ago and the number came from a “scientist” who guessed how many might be dying each year. Then the figure is reported to the MSM in a press release from Greenpeace and years later accepted as fact.

What they of course never mention is the 99.99% of all the species that have ever lived on earth for billions of years are already extinct. And therfore that species extinction is a natural function of the earth and always has been.


43 posted on 06/17/2007 9:55:07 AM PDT by paulweir
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To: TheDon
They use computer models to simulate the extinction rates...
Specifically, it must be the use of one of those as-yet un-refined, work-in-progress, non-converging Global Climate Models (GCM) driving yet another as-yet un-refined, work-in-progress, non-converging Species Extinction Model (SEM) ...
44 posted on 06/17/2007 9:56:40 AM PDT by _Jim (Highly recommended book on the Kennedy assassination - Posner: "Case Closed")
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To: Joe Boucher
Lots of creatures I want to taste before they disappear.

"I don't care who ya are, that there's funny!"


45 posted on 06/17/2007 9:57:15 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Aliska
NPR is a liberal hotbed

I wonder how many NPR types eat "organic" food (what a stupid term, btw; what the hell is "inorganic" food?) despite the fact that it requires 20-30 percent more land to grow, and habitat destruction (the same NPR types will claim) is a major factor in species extinction?

46 posted on 06/17/2007 9:57:31 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Taichi
In other words he’s a whiny anti-capatilist, socialist.

A Watermelon, Green on the outside, Red on the inside.

Very, Very Red.

47 posted on 06/17/2007 10:01:35 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: rface
A wiser practice which preserves biodiversity, Tilman argues, is raising cattle on grassland that resembles the prairie.

Oooh. Then we could drive them to market on horseback.

Wait, better yet we could kill them with stone spear points and slaughter them in place, using their hides to construct our rude, smoky, greasy huts.

48 posted on 06/17/2007 10:02:31 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis
I wonder how many NPR types eat "organic" food

I can't answer your question, but I know they probably make pretty good salaries, and have plenty of time to try to make the rest of us feel guilty. I'll wager they consume a higher share of the world's resources than I do, bet none of them live in non-air-conditioned homes, heating bills in Minnesota are horrific, and they probably don't drive a 91 model little car like I do.

Just as an aside, I usually avoid the interstate, have for so many years (agoraphobia has gotten worse the last 15 years) now except for a couple inner city freeway-type routes you have to use now (and nobody around here calls them freeways) decided I would give it a go about 10:30 Friday night, about a 10-mile stretch of it, and man has the traffic gotten worse. It was scary, and I had to push to keep the minimum speed limit because I seldom have to drive very fast, somebody tailgated me so bad I had to speed up, and the semis were unfriggin real. They were coming nonstop in the westbound lane, not so many passing me in the easbound lane, and having to have my window open because my ac is broken, they made a whistling sound as they sped by which I don't remember hearing before. I was wondering how many of them were Mexican trucks and was also wondering if I would make it home.

49 posted on 06/17/2007 10:16:22 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: chaos_5
These “scientists” are using the same logic they probably ridiculed when Rumsfeld used it: you have known, knowns, your known, unknown, and your unknown, unknown.

The “50,000 per year” figure comes from their unknown, unknown guesstimate.

50 posted on 06/17/2007 10:21:33 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: rface

“Biodiversity is being irreversibly destroyed by human activities at an unprecedented rate. . . (demanding) urgent and significant action.”

Now that they have brainwashed the great unwashed masses on global warming, the eco-socialists are on to their next fiction - the destruction of biodiversity by man!!


51 posted on 06/17/2007 10:35:59 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Gorzaloon
Do they take Physics, Calculus, and Chemistry?

I can tell you one course they don't take, and that's statistics.

As with global warming, they have no numbers that rise above the statistical background noise to show that anything is happening, much less that it's man made.

If we have no idea how many species are out there, we have no idea of how many are "disappearing", unless it's something large and noticeable, like the dodo bird or passenger pigeon. Too bad they're gone, but the world is doing okay without them.

Most "species" out there are bugs and bacteria that we will never notice, or miss, even if they're under our feet. We don't even have enough DNA evidence on them to determine whether they're vanishing, or just evolving into another bug or bacterium.

These "ecology professors" are amazingly weak on hard science and mathematics. They spout vague numbers about species, and then "hard" numbers on how many are being killed by American SUVs. That does not compute.

52 posted on 06/17/2007 10:42:18 AM PDT by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: SteveMcKing

At first I thought he was going to turn out to be a PETA-Vegan.

After looking at his picture, I’ve decided he’s probably a meat-eater after all.

Favorite dish: cock-au-vin.


53 posted on 06/17/2007 11:03:42 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Stultis
I wonder how many NPR types eat “organic” food (what a stupid term, btw; what the hell is “inorganic” food?)

I’ve asked the staff in stores that sell so called “organic” where I might find the “inorganic” section. Being high school kids they usually don’t know what I’m talking about. They are still trying to process “organic.”

54 posted on 06/17/2007 11:04:08 AM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: airborne

” ...But he puts it down,saying it would be a good meal but IT’S PROTECTED!!...”

“How is an alligator a protected species if there are millions??”

Because THEY TASTE LIKE CHICKEN! Purdue and Tyson have a little deal with the EPA.


55 posted on 06/17/2007 11:13:34 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Taichi
I’ve asked the staff in stores that sell so called “organic” where I might find the “inorganic” section. Being high school kids they usually don’t know what I’m talking about. They are still trying to process “organic.”

Let me tell you about my "organic" meal: Years ago, we started having a vegetable garden. We had a bumper crop of broccoli, and picked a bunch, put it in a big Corning Ware thing with butter and salt and pepper, and cooked it up..Absolutley delicious. After a second meal, we found DOZENS of little tiny GREEN caterpillars the same color as the brocolli all over the bottom of the container.

The NEXT year, Sevin™, Diazinone, Agent Orange, we did not care after the "Diet of Worms"!!!!!

56 posted on 06/17/2007 11:14:27 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Gorzaloon
Do they take Physics, Calculus, and Chemistry?

I can't say anythung about calculus & physics, but back ca 1975, just out of curiosity, and because I had room for electives, [and had long had a stomach full of the 'humanities' side of the campus] I took a class called Ecological Chemistry.

It dealt with applying basic chemistry concepts to the environment. It did not require any chemistry beyond a year of high school chem as a prerequisite.

The sad thing is, for those who only took it, it satisfied the chemistry requirement for many of the life sciences majors.

57 posted on 06/17/2007 11:19:51 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: BenLurkin
Not to worry — evolution will change other creatures in order to fill those ecological niches.

You mean that other creatures will change and if its beneficial, they'll stay that way? Then we will say they evolved, when all they really did was change and not die off as a result.

58 posted on 06/17/2007 11:24:22 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Gorzaloon
Didn’t spray my plum tree one year. Man those were good worms and the plums weren’t bad either.
59 posted on 06/17/2007 11:29:32 AM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: gcruse
There are hidden contradictions in the minds of people who “love Nature” while deploring the “artificialities” with which “Man has spoiled ‘Nature.’ “
The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of “Nature”, but beavers and their dams are.
But the contradictions go deeper than this prima-facie absurdity.
In declaring his love for a beaver dam (erected by beavers for beavers’ purposes) and his hatred for dams erected by men (for the purposes of men) the “Naturist” reveals his hatred for his own race, i.e. his own self-hatred.
In the case,of “Naturists” such self-hatred is understandable; they are such a sorry lot.
But hatred is too strong an emotion to feel toward them; pity and contempt are the most they rate.
As for me, willy-nilly I am a man, not a beaver, and H. sapiens is the only race I have or can have.
Fortunately for me, I like being part of a race made up of men and women, it strikes me as a fine arrangement and perfectly “natural.” LAZARUS LONG
60 posted on 06/17/2007 11:30:07 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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