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Interview with Ron Paul
world net daily ^ | June 18, 2007 | vox day

Posted on 06/18/2007 9:52:22 AM PDT by AdamSelene235

What's your response to those who say you're not electable?

The idea of who is not electable is subjective. It's early. No one knows, and only one candidate will win, so everyone else will turn out to be not electable.

The nomination is completely open now because the party is in disarray, the base is unhappy and I offer them an alternative and a return to their tradition of true conservativism. I think I'm quite electable. I'm not placing any bets, but to argue that I'm not electable is just trying to dismiss someone they don't want to hear from. It's more rhetoric than anything else.

Do you believe in open borders? That's the libertarian position, after all.

Some libertarians believe in totally open borders. I don't. Remember, I was the Libertarian Party's candidate for president in 1988, and I ran as a right-to-life Libertarian. I don't support totally open borders because, although I think the federal government should be small, protecting borders and providing for national defense – which excludes occupying other countries – are two of its legitimate functions. I would beef up the borders and not worry about the borders in Korea and Iraq. It's ironic that we're taking border guards off our borders and paying them to go and train border guards over there. I do understand the libertarian argument. The more we deal with our neighbors, the better off we are. I like the idea of trade. I like the idea of free travel and friendship. When that happens, you're less likely to fight. But that doesn't mean anyone can come in and get easy citizenship.

My biggest argument is different than those who want to shoot anyone crossing the border. When you subsizide things, you get more of it, and we subsidize immigration. We need to stop that. I want to deny the benefits that draw people here.

Do you find the dichotomy between the excitement about your campaign on the Internet and the silence about it in the mainstream media to be a little strange?

I don't see it completely. I think that might be true of the three or four major networks, but on the national talk shows, the Bill Maher and John Stewart-type shows, we're getting a lot of invitations. I don't think we'd have that if we didn't have the Internet excitement. If we continue to do well, they'll be forced to follow and give us more attention. This is true of a lot of things; a lot of stories break on the Internet. The networks are usually pretty slow on picking up what's happening.

Do you think the endorsement of Rush Limbaugh would win you the nomination?

Oh, I don't think so.

Some Republicans criticize you for opposing the ongoing military occupations, since that's supposed to be a Democratic position.

There are some Democrats who oppose the war, although I oppose it in a different manner. They argue about tactics. My objections are strategic, philosophical and constitutional. The big debate recently was about whether you have a surge or not. I want to change the whole debate and not get involved in these insane alliances in the first place. There are a lot of arguments that support my position on non-intervention.

As a member of Congress, have you seen any evidence of attempts to merge the USA with Mexico and Canada?

I think they're working diligently for it, and that's why this administration is weak. They don't even believe in national sovereignty. It started with NAFTA, then SPP, and now they're moving to take the next step with this immigration bill. They're going to advance that effort to put the three countries together and have a single currency. Now that's something a president could do, is to let people know what plans have been made and express objection to them. I would work strongly against the North American Union.

Do you think being the only non-interventionist Republican helps your campaign?

I would think so. Of course, I see the philosophy as being very popular and commonsensical, and people respond to it. People like the message of the free enterprise system and letting people run their own lives with privacy. They are responding very favorably to minding our own business, and besides, we can't afford it.

For the complete text of Vox Day's interview with Ron Paul, visit Vox Popoli.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: nutball; paulbearers; paulistas; ronpaul; voxday
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To: D-fendr

Paul believes that the threat can be mitigated by tough border protection. In other words, it’s an over here versus over there argument.


21 posted on 06/18/2007 10:28:43 AM PDT by TheRiverNile
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To: TheRiverNile

Is he one of those who thinks we shouldn’t have fought Hitler’s Germany?


22 posted on 06/18/2007 10:43:17 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: TheRiverNile

And I’m assuming you’re kidding about his idea of fighting Islamofacism being border security.


23 posted on 06/18/2007 10:48:09 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: AdamSelene235

How many of you Ron Paul supporters really think he will be elected?


24 posted on 06/18/2007 11:02:26 AM PDT by Columbine
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Why is this up here? Who care’s?

You apparently do.
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25 posted on 06/18/2007 11:27:20 AM PDT by radioman
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To: Perdogg

So after he abolishes the IRS youre saying he meant hes going to spend more on education and health care...? yeah thats realistic... Hes basically for abolishing all federal departments, to claim hes for more government spending is just ridiculous.

Realistically, he was probably speaking about veterans care. Which is the only area he feels needs more attention and thats only because we make a promise to our veterans and they get shitty care, and you have to jump through hoops to get the GI bill moving. I know, I have been to a veterans hospital before and heard the stories about getting the government to begin paying for the education they promise you. Someone should ask him, but seriously after examining his VOTING record and the legislation he proposes to congress to make such a dumb insinuation is ridiculous.


26 posted on 06/18/2007 11:32:36 AM PDT by JJTHEBULL (You're either with US, or you're with the ILLEGALS)
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To: CJ Wolf

Look, we like to talk about the Constitution. Do a little flag waving about how wise the Founding Fathers were to draw it up, what a beacon of freedom it is to the world, yadda, yadda, yadda. But We The People would crap in our pants if ever faced with a Government that actually followed it.


27 posted on 06/18/2007 11:33:18 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: D-fendr

Hitler’s Germany would most likely not have existed if not for Wilsonian adventurism two decades earlier.


28 posted on 06/18/2007 11:36:22 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Columbine
How many of you Ron Paul supporters really think he will be elected?

I believe RP would have a better chance in the general election than the primaries.

If it came down to RP vs. Hillary, I think he could attract a good number of Reagan Democrats and Independents. This coalition could potentially push major reform in Congress, if not, RP will use all his power to block Congress's nonsense. We're talking about daily vetos.

However, I think RP has very little chance of winning the Republican primary.

The Republican primary will likely be won by a "business as usual" Republican.

If it is Giuliani, the conservative base will fragment and Hillary has a good shot at winning. A potentially disasterous scenario, although the Republicans will regain the House and Senate in the backlash.

If it is Fred Thompson or any generic conservative vs. Hillary the generic conservative will win. However, the generic conservative will not have the courage to alter the status quo and will collaborate with the Democratic Congress. Look for more Ted Kennedy/White House collaboration.

If its generic Republican vs. generic Democrat, the Democrat will win on the issue of the war alone in the same manner Bush managed to lose the House and Senate. Democrats get all 3 branches of government.

So given the options are "business as usual" i.e. the globalization of the American welfare state,integration with Mexico, grotesque Congressional incompetence, etc. OR Hillary OR a slim chance at Paul, I'm pulling for Paul.

29 posted on 06/18/2007 11:38:04 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: billbears

So, that’s a “yes”?


30 posted on 06/18/2007 11:39:06 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
Not at all. You wanted an answer. The answer is we shouldn't have been involved in WWI, thereby not creating some of the problems faced in WWII. But we're playing what ifs here aren't we? Trying to find something to stick to Dr. Paul perhaps? So it's a moot point. May as well ask should 'Mr. Polk's War' have happened?

Of course if you're trying to compare the rise of a first world power army compared to the semi-rise of a bunch of nuts in the desert from a third rate country that's even more ridiculous. But that's about all you've got. It's simply not a comparison.

31 posted on 06/18/2007 11:45:59 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: AdamSelene235
So do believe the US President and Congress should cite the United Nations as an authority when deploying US troops?

Thats one of the main reasons why he voted against going into Iraq. Ron Paul felt (and rightfully so) that we have no business enforcing bogus UN resolutions.

A lot of so called 'conservatives' on here will say the UN is useless. However, in their next breath, they will say that we were justified to go into Iraq because Hussein violated over a dozen resolutions. They can't have it both ways.
32 posted on 06/18/2007 11:50:35 AM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: AdamSelene235
I think he could attract a good number of Reagan Democrats and Independents.

That's the key to winning in 2008. Many voters will be voting against the Republican party no matter who the Dems nominate. Only Ron Paul can attract Reagan Dems, independents and libertarian voters.

Paul and Tancredo are the only candidates who are not big government socialists. Tancredo threw out his libertarian supporters when he jumped in bed with the gun grabbers.

Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate who stands a chance of winning the general election. Nominate him or lose in 2008.
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33 posted on 06/18/2007 11:52:13 AM PDT by radioman
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To: billbears

Yes I wanted an answer to the question I asked. I *think* now that the answer is “no.” I asked it in response to an “over here versus over there” reply.

If Paul agrees with your assessment of the threat from Islamofacism, then that answers some of my other questions as well.

I disagree strongly with your, and assumably his, view of the threat.


34 posted on 06/18/2007 12:03:17 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: AdamSelene235
Freerepublic is not what it use to be.It seems it’s Hillary Clinton's info center for direction.
35 posted on 06/18/2007 12:28:13 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: BigTom85

Hmmm.....

“...Can’t have it both ways...”

Some questions for you:

(1) Does Ron Paul think that our “cease-fire” with Saddam’s Iraq should have been “honored” by the US, even though the terms of that “cease-fire” were being deliberately violated by Saddam’s Iraq?

(2) Since Ron Paul thinks the US should not be the “world’s policeman”, who would he prefer to see in that role? Al Qaeda? The UN? Russia? China? Iran?

(3) Or did Ron Paul sleep through that part of his Physics class where vaccuums (”Nature abhors a vaccuum”) were explained?

(4) Does Ron Paul believe that, if ONLY Amercia would just set a high enough “moral example” to the world, then the world would renounce human nature and “Peace” and “Harmony” would thrive everywhere in the world?

(5) Does he understand that EVERY culture which actually practiced such “holier-than-thou pacifism” has been destroyed?

(6) Or did Ron Paul sleep though that part of his history class where the sacking of Iona was explained?

IMHO, it is Ron Paul who is trying to “have it both ways”...


36 posted on 06/18/2007 1:16:30 PM PDT by pfony1
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To: Columbine

How many of you Bush supporters think Hillary will be elected? Just mention her name and you guys pee your pants.


37 posted on 06/18/2007 1:54:14 PM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: D-fendr

No, I think that’s his belief...don’t let the bad guys in and nothing bad will happen.


38 posted on 06/18/2007 2:05:17 PM PDT by TheRiverNile
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To: pfony1
(3) Or did Ron Paul sleep through that part of his Physics class where vaccuums (”Nature abhors a vaccuum”) were explained?

I've taken many graduate level physics courses and have never ever heard this stated.

In fact, the only way RP would have been taught this in a physics class is if he was attending course in Aristotelian physics, many, many centuries ago.

(6) Or did Ron Paul sleep though that part of his history class where the sacking of Iona was explained?

Do you really think a handful of monks on the the tiny Isle of Iona is a credible analogue for the 21st Century American Superpower?

You are suffering from a nasty case of psdueo-intellectualism.

39 posted on 06/18/2007 2:24:47 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: TheRiverNile

Thanks for your reply.

I do think that’s quite naive and bad strategy.

There’s much we can do to improve security, border security in particular but “don’t let the bad guys in” is a possibly successful strategy in a police state.

We’ve also mega-tons of cargo, thousands of miles of coastland and borderland. A purely defensive strategy against Islamofacism is naive in the extreme.

It also ignores national interest in energy supplies and many other areas.

Paul really seems very wrong on national security from top to bottom, with a few exceptions, that I think most others agree with anyway.


40 posted on 06/18/2007 2:25:39 PM PDT by D-fendr
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