Posted on 06/18/2007 9:52:22 AM PDT by AdamSelene235
Paul believes that the threat can be mitigated by tough border protection. In other words, it’s an over here versus over there argument.
Is he one of those who thinks we shouldn’t have fought Hitler’s Germany?
And I’m assuming you’re kidding about his idea of fighting Islamofacism being border security.
How many of you Ron Paul supporters really think he will be elected?
So after he abolishes the IRS youre saying he meant hes going to spend more on education and health care...? yeah thats realistic... Hes basically for abolishing all federal departments, to claim hes for more government spending is just ridiculous.
Realistically, he was probably speaking about veterans care. Which is the only area he feels needs more attention and thats only because we make a promise to our veterans and they get shitty care, and you have to jump through hoops to get the GI bill moving. I know, I have been to a veterans hospital before and heard the stories about getting the government to begin paying for the education they promise you. Someone should ask him, but seriously after examining his VOTING record and the legislation he proposes to congress to make such a dumb insinuation is ridiculous.
Look, we like to talk about the Constitution. Do a little flag waving about how wise the Founding Fathers were to draw it up, what a beacon of freedom it is to the world, yadda, yadda, yadda. But We The People would crap in our pants if ever faced with a Government that actually followed it.
Hitler’s Germany would most likely not have existed if not for Wilsonian adventurism two decades earlier.
I believe RP would have a better chance in the general election than the primaries.
If it came down to RP vs. Hillary, I think he could attract a good number of Reagan Democrats and Independents. This coalition could potentially push major reform in Congress, if not, RP will use all his power to block Congress's nonsense. We're talking about daily vetos.
However, I think RP has very little chance of winning the Republican primary.
The Republican primary will likely be won by a "business as usual" Republican.
If it is Giuliani, the conservative base will fragment and Hillary has a good shot at winning. A potentially disasterous scenario, although the Republicans will regain the House and Senate in the backlash.
If it is Fred Thompson or any generic conservative vs. Hillary the generic conservative will win. However, the generic conservative will not have the courage to alter the status quo and will collaborate with the Democratic Congress. Look for more Ted Kennedy/White House collaboration.
If its generic Republican vs. generic Democrat, the Democrat will win on the issue of the war alone in the same manner Bush managed to lose the House and Senate. Democrats get all 3 branches of government.
So given the options are "business as usual" i.e. the globalization of the American welfare state,integration with Mexico, grotesque Congressional incompetence, etc. OR Hillary OR a slim chance at Paul, I'm pulling for Paul.
So, that’s a “yes”?
Of course if you're trying to compare the rise of a first world power army compared to the semi-rise of a bunch of nuts in the desert from a third rate country that's even more ridiculous. But that's about all you've got. It's simply not a comparison.
Yes I wanted an answer to the question I asked. I *think* now that the answer is “no.” I asked it in response to an “over here versus over there” reply.
If Paul agrees with your assessment of the threat from Islamofacism, then that answers some of my other questions as well.
I disagree strongly with your, and assumably his, view of the threat.
Hmmm.....
“...Can’t have it both ways...”
Some questions for you:
(1) Does Ron Paul think that our “cease-fire” with Saddam’s Iraq should have been “honored” by the US, even though the terms of that “cease-fire” were being deliberately violated by Saddam’s Iraq?
(2) Since Ron Paul thinks the US should not be the “world’s policeman”, who would he prefer to see in that role? Al Qaeda? The UN? Russia? China? Iran?
(3) Or did Ron Paul sleep through that part of his Physics class where vaccuums (”Nature abhors a vaccuum”) were explained?
(4) Does Ron Paul believe that, if ONLY Amercia would just set a high enough “moral example” to the world, then the world would renounce human nature and “Peace” and “Harmony” would thrive everywhere in the world?
(5) Does he understand that EVERY culture which actually practiced such “holier-than-thou pacifism” has been destroyed?
(6) Or did Ron Paul sleep though that part of his history class where the sacking of Iona was explained?
IMHO, it is Ron Paul who is trying to “have it both ways”...
How many of you Bush supporters think Hillary will be elected? Just mention her name and you guys pee your pants.
No, I think that’s his belief...don’t let the bad guys in and nothing bad will happen.
I've taken many graduate level physics courses and have never ever heard this stated.
In fact, the only way RP would have been taught this in a physics class is if he was attending course in Aristotelian physics, many, many centuries ago.
(6) Or did Ron Paul sleep though that part of his history class where the sacking of Iona was explained?
Do you really think a handful of monks on the the tiny Isle of Iona is a credible analogue for the 21st Century American Superpower?
You are suffering from a nasty case of psdueo-intellectualism.
Thanks for your reply.
I do think that’s quite naive and bad strategy.
There’s much we can do to improve security, border security in particular but “don’t let the bad guys in” is a possibly successful strategy in a police state.
We’ve also mega-tons of cargo, thousands of miles of coastland and borderland. A purely defensive strategy against Islamofacism is naive in the extreme.
It also ignores national interest in energy supplies and many other areas.
Paul really seems very wrong on national security from top to bottom, with a few exceptions, that I think most others agree with anyway.
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