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BBC: Lebanon army 'wins camp battle'
BBC ^ | Thursday, 21 June 2007, 19:39 GMT 20:39 UK | BBC Staff

Posted on 06/21/2007 12:54:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lebanon army 'wins camp battle'

Smoke rises from the Nahr al-Bared refugee camp

Much of Nahr al-Bared has been destroyed during the fighting

Lebanon says a military operation against Islamist fighters based in a Palestinian refugee camp has ended after a month-long battle.

Defence Minister Elias Murr said all of Fatah al-Islam's positions in the Nahr al-Bared camp had been destroyed.

The leaders of the group were now on the run, Mr Murr said.

More than 150 people have died at the camp, including at least 20 civilians, in Lebanon's worst internal violence since the end of the 1975-90 civil war.

"I can notify the Lebanese that the military operation is over," Mr Murr told Lebanese TV, saying the army had "crushed those terrorists".

"What is happening now is some clean-up that the army's heroes are carrying out, and dismantling some mines."

Troops would continue to pursue the leaders and remaining fighter of Fatah al-Islam, Mr Murr said, suggesting that some clashes could still flare up inside the refugee camp.

Nahr al-Bared, near the northern city of Tripoli, was home to 30,000 people before the fighting broke out.

Large parts of the camp have been left in ruins after a bitter struggle that began in late May.




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KEYWORDS: lebanon; syria

1 posted on 06/21/2007 12:54:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SandRat; NormsRevenge; jveritas; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; ..
Earlier thread posted by Jveritas

The Lebanese Army Totally Defeat “Fath Al Islam” Terrorist Group

2 posted on 06/21/2007 12:57:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just don’t hang a “Mission Accomplished” sign.


3 posted on 06/21/2007 12:57:18 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Excellent :)


4 posted on 06/21/2007 12:59:51 PM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When the Lebanese say they have things under control, you have to worry.


5 posted on 06/21/2007 1:00:57 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is this the same Fatah that Hamas just squashed in Gaza? Any coincidence?


6 posted on 06/21/2007 1:10:06 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Much of Nahr al-Bared has been destroyed during the fighting

And they could tell how, exactly?

L

7 posted on 06/21/2007 1:11:56 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The leaders of the group were now on the run, Mr Murr said.

I don't call that a victory, just a start.

8 posted on 06/21/2007 1:12:21 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good news from the BBC?

Well! I never...

9 posted on 06/21/2007 1:14:02 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: tobyhill

No matter how many tours the crews were kept on due to decimation of the services. /s


10 posted on 06/21/2007 1:14:36 PM PDT by PfromHoGro (Don't Believe the DBM: Democrat-Bureaucrat-Media Complex)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wonderful news. May the people of Lebanon continue to chase and kill these pigs until they exist no longer.


11 posted on 06/21/2007 1:16:14 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (..and the horse you rode in on!)
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To: Kerretarded
No that is “Fath Al Islam” which is different from “Fatah”. “Fath Al Islam” is a terrorist group supported by the Syrian terrorist regime and inspired by AL Qaeda terrorist group.
12 posted on 06/21/2007 1:39:07 PM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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Murr rules out truce with Fatah al-Islam militants
Group’s ties to damascus not yet proven - minister
By Rym Ghazal
Daily Star staff
Friday, June 22, 2007
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=83264

BEIRUT: The Lebanese Army resumed its shelling of Fatah al-Islam militants in the Nahr al-Bared refugee camp on Thursday, with the defense minister vowing to crush the group, in a marked departure from earlier expressions of willingness to seek a truce. “The army will win the battle and will negotiate on the basis of the surrender of the remaining fighters,” Defense Minister Elias Murr told Nahar Ash-Shabab, a weekly supplement of local An-Nahar daily, on Thursday.

Palestinian leaders had previously held meetings with the army and the militants in an attempt to broker a cease-fire.

The offensive against the militants was launched on May 20, after a violent showdown between the army and Fatah al-Islam fighters in Tripoli was followed by attacks on army posts in which 27 soldiers were killed.

Seventy-five soldiers and an unknown number of militants have been killed in the fighting.

Murr vowed on Thursday that the army would not rest until it had taken custody of those behind the ambush on army posts outside Nahr al-Bared.

The sound of shells and gunfire reverberated throughout the camp on Thursday, although fighting was confined to the Cooperative and Naji Ali vicinity, where surviving militants are hiding among rubble and firing at the army.

The soldiers are advancing slowly from the northern part of the camp, dismantling mines and booby traps that have already killed several of their men.

De-mining teams precede them as large bulldozers, protected by sandbags and metal plates, wait in the rear, ready to go into action.

Murr cautioned the country’s politicians against concluding that the militants in Nahr al-Bared have links to Syria, saying it was too early to tell.

“Does the government so far have an official confession about the links of these [Fatah Islam militants] or some of them to Syria? So far, there is no answer, and we have to wait for the next days,” Murr was quoted as saying.

Fatah al-Islam first came to the public’s attention in March, when the government blamed members of the group for fatal twin bus bombings in Ain Alaq a month earlier. Several ministers asserted at the time that the militants received support from Syrian intelligence and aimed to destabilize Lebanon.

State Prosecutor Saeed Mirza filed charges on Thursday against 16 suspected Fatah al-Islam members, including group leader Shaker Youssef al-Abssi, who is still at large.

Among the defendants were 10 Syrians, two Lebanese, two Palestinians (including one woman) and one Saudi fighter. Nine of the suspects charged Thursday are in custody.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb

Murr said several militants had been arrested in Tripoli before the fighting erupted in Nahr al-Bared, including members of Fatah al-Islam, Al-Qaeda and a third group that reportedly participated in clashes with the Lebanese Army in the northern region of Dinniyeh in 1999.

The Dinniyeh militants were released under a general amnesty in 2005, but were re-arrested last month.

“There is a faction of them which belongs directly to Al-Qaeda,” Murr said.

Fatah al-Islam has said it has no organizational ties to Al-Qaeda but shares the group’s ideology and views Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden as a mentor.

However, Omar Bakri Mohammad, an Islamist preacher who has been in contact with Fatah al-Islam, said the group does have Syrian ties and is not an offshoot of Al-Qaeda.

“Abssi discovered Syria was trying to sell them out to America under the pretext of being Al-Qaeda in Lebanon,” Bakri told The Daily Star.

Fatah al-Islam “are hard-core practicing Muslims, but they are not Al-Qaeda,” said Bakri, who was barred from Britain two years ago for his radical views.

Despite the continuing army advance, Palestinian mediators remained optimistic on Thursday that a cease-fire might still be negotiated. “So far, we have not received the army command’s official response to the cease-fire proposal,” Sheik Mohammad Hajj, one of the leading mediators from the Palestine Clerics Association, told The Daily Star.

“The proposal does include surrender, but with conditions,” said Hajj, who wouldn’t elaborate on the details of the proposed surrender of the Fatah al-Islam members.

“Hopefully an agreement can be reached to end the bloodshed in the camp and bring about peace,” he added.

Meanwhile, soldiers said that the remaining militants, whose number is unknown, had proven elusive.

“They’re fighting like rats - it’s very hard to see them,” an army sergeant resting behind the lines told AFP on condition of anonymity on Thursday.

“Their firing points are camouflaged. They are in several holes, and run from one to the other,” the sergeant said.

“They made holes in the walls of the houses so they can pass from one to the other without coming out into the open,” he said, adding: “We think they also have tunnels.” - With agencies


13 posted on 06/21/2007 2:35:16 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; jveritas
Good news to hear. Hopefully the Lebanese Army will continue to be able to track and kill the leadership as well as their goon squads that managed to escape by various means.
All muslim radicals must be put on notice they will be hunted down and killed off. Like in Iraq, there is no other option. Either they get killed or they will always figure out how to carry out their miserable ways and cause great grief to innocent peoples.
14 posted on 06/21/2007 2:39:31 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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15 posted on 06/21/2007 2:43:50 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: tobyhill

Seal the Syrian border and kill anyone trying to get across.

Next thing up, pointing out Hizbo positions for the Israelis to shell.


16 posted on 06/21/2007 4:49:06 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (If your representative will not vote for Term Limits, vote for the candidate who will.)
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To: Lurker

Author meant to say “remodeled”, I’m convinced.


17 posted on 06/21/2007 5:54:37 PM PDT by Hilltop (?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The fighters have lost their “bases” or barracks in the northern (newly built) hardened part of the camp. They retreated to the old camp which is a kind of mazed shanty town, and they still have the ability to fight. Fighting and 155 mm shelling is going on.
Let alone what Mr. Murr had declared to the LBC TV station. The army is still blockading tightly the old camp, and wants an unconditional surrender of all the living and “dead”. We want all the corpses so we may conduct a DNA comparision with their relatives here in Lebanon, in Jordan, in Saudi Arabia and in Yemen. Nobody vanishes.


18 posted on 06/21/2007 10:42:44 PM PDT by Patrick_k
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The leaders of the group were now on the run, Mr Murr said... "I can notify the Lebanese that the military operation is over," Mr Murr told Lebanese TV, saying the army had "crushed those terrorists".
Huh? Until their carcasses are hung up for the buzzards, they aren't crushed. Thanks E! Still good news.
19 posted on 06/22/2007 9:29:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 20, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Until their carcasses are hung up for the buzzards, they aren't crushed"

Right on, SC! Works for me!
20 posted on 06/22/2007 9:34:00 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Jimmuh Carter and James Baker can kiss my cold instant grits.)
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