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To: Bokababe

Racism is a problem across Europe.

If you want to see racist displays in the former Yugoslavia, you can always go to a Serbian soccer game:

Here is a video with Serb fans dressed up like Ku Klux Klansman and waving the Stars and Bars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_MS6LNimDU

Here are articles about very recent racist acts at soccer games by Serbs:

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/FinalKross/2006/10/18/Racism_in_Serbia_and_Kezman

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6753585.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/06/18/uefa.probe/index.html?eref=rss_latest

So, apparently the Croats aren’t the only ones with a problem.


25 posted on 06/23/2007 2:42:38 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
90% of Serbs have never seen a non-white person in their lives, first of all. Ergo, their "racism" isn't really racism. They think it's cool to torment an African guy who has traveled 1000s of miles to play soccer in Serbia. Those guys are what we in Serbia referred to as "paori." (think of the worst rednecks you can imagine = paori)

Secondly, 20 FK Borats fans is a far cry from the mob of 50,000 at Thompson's concert engaging in a mass orgy of fascism, anti-Semitism and Serbophobia. Whole families went to the concert. That's what's scary, not the primitive dumb ass singer.

Thirdly, whereas 20 Serbs are seen waving Dixie flags and shouting racist slurs at a black soccer player from Zimbabwe, Nazism is a part of Croatian nation's (very recent) past. The past that Croatia must deal with and fast because there are 300,000 Serbs who would like to go back to their ancestral homes.

Lastly, the Croatian state participated in THE HOLOCAUST and had murdered 750,000 Serbs, Jews and other Untermenschen.

Get lost and don't come back with your asinine apologist crap.

27 posted on 06/23/2007 3:02:03 PM PDT by Banat (DEO + REGI + PATRIAE | In Hoc Signo Vinces)
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To: vladimir998
"If you want to see racist displays in the former Yugoslavia, you can always go to a Serbian soccer game:"

It is true that many Serb soccer fans are out of hand and should be stopped. Fine them, send them home, get them the hell out of the stadium -- they are a**holes.

And it also true that they aren't alone -- we have seen similar problems with soccer fans across Europe.

The only difference as far as I am concerned is that the Serb racist stuff is complete gobbledygook. Except in Belgrade or one of the big cities, most Serbs have never seen Blacks let alone known many. And as for the KKK stuff, it's ridiculous because most Serbs who came here when my family came to the US, were actually the target and victims of the KKK, not perpetrators. These Serb soccer fans just found some stupid-ass way to try and mentally get at the Black players who were beating them, by mimicking US bigots like the KKK. It's unacceptable behavior and should be stopped, but it isn't part of some "political movement or ideology".

On the other hand, this "Thompson event" was a rock concert and not a soccer game -- this was "for fascism" and not just "something to get a Serb's goat on an opposing sports team". Serbs have never mass murdered Blacks like Croats mass-murdered Serbs, Jews & Gypsies. This Thompson concert is the promotion of a political ideology, not just "bad behavior at a soccer game". There is a qualitative difference.

And if some Serb political figure were caught at a goose-stepping fascist event like this one, it would have been all over the cover of Newsweek.

28 posted on 06/23/2007 3:05:24 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: vladimir998
You need a reality check.

Stuff happens more often than not at most stupid soccer matches...nothing like the hooliganism at German Turkish and British games!

A totally different situation at this concert.

A few clowns at a soccer match versus thousands including a Croat political leader doing the goose-step...sanctioned by the Croat government...

WOW!!!

Big difference.

31 posted on 06/23/2007 3:18:48 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: vladimir998
So, apparently the Croats aren’t the only ones with a problem.

In the past Croats glorified fascism, the Serbs stalinism and the Muslims imported islamofasist terrorists as soon as they had a chance. Kinda hard to to go with any of those choices.

126 posted on 06/26/2007 11:31:55 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: vladimir998
Nazis are every where including the USA. However, they are pretty low numbers. Here is a video I found about it from ESPN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwpO-nnFY9g&mode=related&search=

If I ma not mistaken though, then this even was held in Croatia. So I do not understand why you are going after the Serbs. Moreover, Croatia sided with the Nazis against Serbia in WWII. Croatia is now a breeding ground for radical Islam too. I know Bill Clinton bombed the Serbs, and they were accused of genocide. Nevertheless, I think Croatia was up to the same but never heard anything about it.

The way I understand it Serbia is primarily Christian, and Croatia is primarily Muslim. Then again I may be wrong.

133 posted on 06/26/2007 2:26:42 PM PDT by Sprite518
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