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[Ted] Kennedy makes push for [illegal] immigration bill
The Republican (Mass.) ^ | June 22, 2007 | Jo-Ann Moriarty

Posted on 06/23/2007 7:00:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., told farm workers yesterday that the immigration reform bill will be brought back to the Senate floor for deliberation within days, and that the Senate is determined to vote on it, even if it means working weekends and during the July 4th weekend.

Once the energy bill clears the Senate floor, the bipartisan but controversial immigration bill, written by Kennedy and Sen. Arlen J. Specter, R-Pa., will be back before the Senate, he said.

"Dealing with immigration is central to the challenge of civil rights," Kennedy said. "We have come a long way."

Kennedy, the second longest-serving member of the Senate, said that America was a segregated nation until only 40 years ago when Congress began passing civil rights laws and much progress has been made since that time. For Kennedy, immigration is a civil rights issue as well.

Finding middle ground between citizens who want to deport the 12 million immigrants living here illegally and the majority of the population, which supports keeping families together through earned citizenship, is not going to happen by "bumper sticker solutions," Kennedy said.

"I think we should work over the weekend and through the Fourth of July recess," Kennedy said.

The Massachusetts Democrat met with farm workers and labor leaders in the wake of a new poll conducted by pollster Sergio Bendixen for New America Media. The poll found that 83 percent of illegal immigrants from Latin American are willing to comply with new provisions in the comprehensive immigration bill.

To reach legal status, the pending legislation would require illegal immigrants to pay their back taxes, pay fines for each individual within a household, keep a clean criminal record and learn English.

The poll found that by a large margin illegal immigrants are willing to undergo criminal background checks, pay fines and fees and return to their countries of origin - if they are guaranteed re-entry - to put themselves on the track for legalization, Bendixen said.

"This poll today demonstrates that this bipartisan reform bill would work," Kennedy said. "It would work because the 12 million undocumented immigrants who are here today will pay the high price to become an American citizen."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arlenspecter; civilrights; congress; democrats; gop; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nativists; racists; rednecks; republicans; senate; tedkennedy; vampirebill; xenophobes
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Notice how Ted call us racists without actually coming out and sauing it?
1 posted on 06/23/2007 7:00:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Dealing with immigration is central to the challenge of civil rights," Kennedy said."

Civil rights for criminal invaders, and we, as ACTUAL non-criminal citizens, can eat sh*t and die. F*ck you, Ted, you fat murderous pig !

2 posted on 06/23/2007 7:02:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“If Mary Jo Kopechne had lived, she would be 64 years old.
Through his tireless work as a legislator,
(Sen. for Life) Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”
Charles Pierce, January 5, 2003 Boston Globe Magazine



3 posted on 06/23/2007 7:04:22 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’m surprised he didn’t call them “undocumented Americans” ala Harry Reid.
4 posted on 06/23/2007 7:06:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

I Like Ike.

The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Immigrants to the U.S. Taxpayer

Take the Pledge: "I pledge to never, ever vote for anyone, for any office, who votes in favor of the Mexican Invasion Surrender Bill."

Model letter to your Senator:

To: Your Senator
From: A concerned citizen and constituent
Subject: Urge that you oppose S.1639--vote no on cloture

I urge that you vote no on S.1639 (Immigration Reform,) and vote no on cloture.

Reasons:

1) Granting any form of legal residency to those who illegally crossed our borders is drastically unfair to all those in the wider world who cannot so easily get the same deal for themselves, because they happen to be geographically disadvantaged relative to most of the illegal immigrants who come here. What about those from Asia, Africa and Europe? Should not legal residency in the US be fairly rationed among all the world's peoples?

2) To reward illegal immigrants with the very thing they were trying to achieve when they broke the law is unconscionable: It encourages law breaking in general, and yet more illegal immigration in particular. Criminals must never be granted that which they were seeking when they broke the law--in this case, any form of legal residency in the United States.

3) S. 1639 would have the effect of creating a peasant class of cheap laborers. Although not as bad as our failed experiment with slavery that ultimately ended in a civil war, the moral argument against it is analogous.

4) "Guest worker" programs of the form proposed by S. 1639 are nothing more than an attempt by business to avoid having to pay a living wage to legal US residents.

5) Eisenhower solved the problem much more simply, and for far less money. His solution also exposed the extent to which the problem is corruption in our government, and among our businesspeople. [Reference: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html]

6) Illegal immigrants are a net financial drain on our economy. The benefits of cheap labor (and cheap food prices) are more than offset by the increased costs for social services and infrastructure. [Reference: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/sr14.cfm]

7) Current law is not the problem. The problem is lack of enforcement. If the current law cannot be enforced, why would things be any different under S. 1639?

5 posted on 06/23/2007 7:08:08 PM PDT by sourcery (Double Feature: "The Amnestyville Horror" and "Kill the Bill, Vol. 2")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Finding middle ground between citizens who want to deport the 12 million immigrants living here illegally and the majority of the population, which supports keeping families together through earned citizenship, is not going to happen by “bumper sticker solutions,” Kennedy said.”

The majority of the population????? (Hic)


6 posted on 06/23/2007 7:08:26 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My motto has always been,if you love the United States of America,watch what Ted Kennedy supports and take the OPPOSITE side,and you’ll be standing up for what’s good for our country !!!


7 posted on 06/23/2007 7:10:40 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“for deliberation within days”
If this passes, the ‘pub party is dead for me, even if Fred is the nominee and I have given $ to Tancredo.


8 posted on 06/23/2007 7:11:20 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Eaker; humblegunner; TheMom; pax_et_bonum; Allegra; weegee; GulfBreeze; ...

The Massachusetts Democrat met with farm workers and labor leaders in the wake of a new poll conducted by pollster Sergio Bendixen for New America Media. The poll found that 83 percent of illegal immigrants from Latin American are willing to comply with new provisions in the comprehensive immigration bill.


Not that this sells me on a damn thing about this bill...

but I have to wonder if the 17% that said they would not comply with the provisions in this bill...Do they think we are stupid???

Do certain numbnuts in this country need anymore convincing that this “deal” in the Senate nees to die a very public and gruesome political death???

Even if it was 100%, I’d still be on the side of “no”...

And if what happened in L.A. is any indication where certain agencies fall on the issue...

I’m glad I am not burdened with having to figure out what side of this I’ll fall on...It was made many years ago...


9 posted on 06/23/2007 7:12:14 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: stevie_d_64

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


10 posted on 06/23/2007 7:12:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Obie Wan

11 posted on 06/23/2007 7:12:54 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Kennedy and Sen. Arlen J. Specter,

I wonder if I would ever in my lifetime support any bill written by these two bozos?

Notice how Ted call us racists without actually coming out and saying it?

All I have wanted is a secure border. I wanted it since September 12th. I already have legislation that says I can build 854 miles of fence. I don't need the 370 miles offered in the last bill or anything less then that. I don't know what Arlen and Ted's bill says yet.

And if Kennedy, Giraldo, or anyone else calls me a bigot, I am going to call them a National Security threat. Just build the Wall.

As a matter of fact, our Congress and President are a National Security threat because we have had since 9-11 to protect our borders from an outside threat. Congress has given us legislation, thanks to Duncan Hunter, but they will not fund it.

So, they (Congress and the President) are a threat to our Security. They will not follow the law and they leave our border unsecure.

12 posted on 06/23/2007 7:13:14 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: dynachrome

The “08” elections are gonna be a wild ride.


13 posted on 06/23/2007 7:13:39 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“The poll found that 83 percent of illegal immigrants from Latin American are willing to comply with new provisions in the comprehensive immigration bill.”

That’s real big of them. They will be given more here than their homeland would ever give them. I contacted the Immigration Department in Australia. They don’t take anyone over 46 years of age!


14 posted on 06/23/2007 7:16:47 PM PDT by BeckB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the majority of the population, which supports keeping families together through earned citizenship”

Why is it these people can seem to write whatever the heck they dam well please and no one can take them to task for it?

I defy the “journalist” who wrote this to back up this statement.


15 posted on 06/23/2007 7:18:52 PM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To reach legal status, the pending legislation would require illegal immigrants to pay their back taxes, pay fines for each individual within a household, keep a clean criminal record and learn English.

Wasn't the back taxes provision taken out?

16 posted on 06/23/2007 7:19:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: mdittmar

“wild ride”
I’ll still get out and vote. Lotta tax increases and proposals on the ballot.


17 posted on 06/23/2007 7:20:04 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: All; Diogenesis

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Sen. TED KENNEDY’s pushing a post-WATERGATE Democrat Congress into cutting off all funding for the Free Vietnamese to fight for their own Freedom with during the Vietnma War =

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

And with his touring a then Free South Vietnam at the very beginning of the Vietnam War in October 1965, to see for himself exactly what the fight for Freedom there was really all about,

...Sen. TED KENNEDY has always known better.

(See 5th Photo down)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

.


18 posted on 06/23/2007 7:20:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Diogenesis

Michael Ramirez is one of my favorite cartoonists.
But I think he screwed up that panel (or I just disagree with him).
In my view, Dubya and Teddy K. are in the command seats of the shuttle
and the losers left aloft are the conservatives that elected Dubya
as well as the approaching-morbidity GOP.
It’s Dubya that has kicked his base to the side of the road.


19 posted on 06/23/2007 7:21:15 PM PDT by VOA
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To: mdittmar
The “08” elections are gonna be a wild ride.

Git your popcorn ready because it is going to be a show.

20 posted on 06/23/2007 7:22:59 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: VOA

Yes. I thought there was special relativity involved,
but you’ve made it clear that WHO has the shuttle who has the power.


21 posted on 06/23/2007 7:25:36 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: djf

I’m sick of this “keeping families together” crap. They can ALL be together in Mexico....we’re not stopping them from leaving. They just can’t stop insulting our intelligence.


22 posted on 06/23/2007 7:27:42 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABELER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, according to Fat Ted, illegal immigrants in this country have civil rights. We are racist xenophobes.


23 posted on 06/23/2007 7:28:08 PM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This bill won't make it across the Potomac.

24 posted on 06/23/2007 7:28:33 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Bush and McCain - the axes of domestic incompetence from CFR to La Raza)
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To: sourcery

I sent your suggested letter to my Senators (Mikulski and Cardin), for what it’s worthless.


25 posted on 06/23/2007 7:29:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To reach legal status, the pending legislation would require illegal immigrants to pay their back taxes, pay fines for each individual within a household, keep a clean criminal record and learn English.

WHAT? I thought they don't have to do any of this according to the POS bill.
26 posted on 06/23/2007 7:30:42 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABELER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: mdittmar

If the amnesty bill gets passed, and the ensuing Civil War occurs, I want to be part of the band of patriots that attacks the Kennedy compound.


27 posted on 06/23/2007 7:33:34 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Teddy fails to touch on the fact that Section 227,Paragraph 22,sub-paragraph “E” forbids any illegal alien from living within 25 miles of Hyannisport,Massachusetts.
28 posted on 06/23/2007 7:37:26 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Careful now,you know we’re being watched;)


29 posted on 06/23/2007 7:38:24 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted. Shut up.


30 posted on 06/23/2007 7:38:30 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
‘’I’m surprised he didn’t call them “undocumented Americans” ala Harry Reid.’’,,,,,,,,,,,,Knowing Harry Reid I suspect it would be more like’’undocumented legal American citizens, being ‘’unjustly victimized’’ for simply wanting to work hard and contribute to our country’’!
31 posted on 06/23/2007 7:54:06 PM PDT by Bush gal in LA (''Don't tread on the FRED!'' Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

If the amnesty bill gets passed, and the ensuing Civil War occurs, I want to be part of the band of patriots that attacks the Kennedy compound.

take a number, they are going fast for Bush, Kennedy, Feinstein Reid, Graham, Martinez, Lott etc


32 posted on 06/23/2007 7:58:04 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: FReepapalooza
He means the majority of the population of the Senate.
33 posted on 06/23/2007 8:01:06 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Its really beyond me how Kennedy has any credibility with anyone whatsoever.


34 posted on 06/23/2007 8:05:49 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: sourcery
And another one has his name and hands on this bill.
McCain/Kennedy after this election money flop of:
McCain/Feingold.
What comes around goes around, it never seems to end.
35 posted on 06/23/2007 8:06:18 PM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: rbg81

Yet for all his vitriol and treason since 9/11, Teddy still can count on his Republican comrades like Bush, Lott etc. to do his bidding. Pathetic...


36 posted on 06/23/2007 8:11:15 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain (Blame me - I voted for Bush)
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To: sourcery
great piece there.

Now lets run with it and let our voices be heard by our leaders in the House & Senate!!

37 posted on 06/23/2007 8:33:46 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: over3Owithabrain
Somebody should make a photoshop of Kennedy as the Evil emperor in Star Wars playing mind tricks on Bush & Co.

Mind you, not that you really need the force to get Bush to be kissing Kennedy's a$$ but you get the general drift.....

38 posted on 06/23/2007 8:38:37 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: rolling_stone
If the amnesty bill gets passed, and the ensuing Civil War occurs, I want to be part of the band of patriots that attacks the Kennedy compound.

Well Praise the Lord and pass the Ammo :-) :-)

Knowing the liberal scum that they are, they'd probably be the first ones out to be sunbathing on the French Riveria until things cool off.

39 posted on 06/23/2007 8:42:29 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: rbg81
Its really beyond me how Kennedy has any credibility with anyone whatsoever.

"The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society, it will not relax the standards of admission, it will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."

--Senator Ted Kennedy, 1965, during the immigration debate.

"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens, will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this."

-- Senator Ted Kennedy, 1986, during the immigration debate on the Simpson-Mazzoli bill.


40 posted on 06/23/2007 8:44:51 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Only 3 1/2-5% of atmospheric CO2 is the result of human activities. 95-96.5% is from natural sources)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ted is a fat, drunkard, lying, leftist, dickweed, who belongs in jail. I’m only 13 and haven’t had my coming out party yet so I actually didn't’t say that.
41 posted on 06/23/2007 9:09:19 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: Obie Wan
Ahh, a wet finger in the wind; testing The Swimmer, the middle one in the wind./p>
42 posted on 06/23/2007 9:14:48 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: Gay State Conservative

NIMBY, LOL!!!


43 posted on 06/23/2007 9:18:20 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: Atchafalaya

As those of us Republicans here in Massholechusetts call Teddy, the Chappaquiddick swim instructor !!!


44 posted on 06/23/2007 9:20:18 PM PDT by Obie Wan (If)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Kennedy knows what it’s like to be a wetback.


45 posted on 06/23/2007 9:20:57 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Civil rights for criminal invaders, and we, as ACTUAL non-criminal citizens, can eat sh*t and die. F*ck you, Ted, you fat murderous pig !”

Bush is no better in the vast configuation of things.


46 posted on 06/23/2007 9:38:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Diogenesis

BUMP


47 posted on 06/23/2007 9:39:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: do the dhue

“So, they (Congress and the President) are a threat to our Security. They will not follow the law and they leave our border unsecure”

B U M P


48 posted on 06/23/2007 9:40:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

On this issue, sadly, yes. :-(


49 posted on 06/23/2007 9:42:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: VRWC For Truth

I was right near there when it happened. I was 15.

The Kennedy’s bought em all off, including Mr. Kopechne.

162,000 in the 60’s.


50 posted on 06/23/2007 9:42:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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