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Field sold on evolution-Theory solid for scientists, religiously motivated critics have no faith
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 25, 2007 | TOM McNAMEE Sun-Times Columnist

Posted on 06/25/2007 5:18:09 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Greg F

No they dont.


21 posted on 06/25/2007 6:00:24 AM PDT by badgerbengal (Close the boarder and open fire!)
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To: muawiyah
Even now there are physicists working on more advanced theories of gravity.

That's the scientific process at work. Theories are developed, research, tested, and published for other to examine and challenge. Sometimes the theory is found to be inaccurate and is replaced with a newer theory. Often the additional research supports the original hypothesis. All science, including evolution, goes through this.

Why isn't a similar process used in intelligent design or creationism?

22 posted on 06/25/2007 6:03:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Chi-townChief
"Evolution is one of science's best-supported theories."

The Big Lie. Evolution is without support.

(See: Cambian Explosion)

23 posted on 06/25/2007 6:05:24 AM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: badgerbengal

If there is no proof of the central contention of evolutionary theory, species evolving (being created) through natural selection, then it is not “one of the best supported theories” in science. It’s pretty weak actually given the whole world and all species to observe . . .


24 posted on 06/25/2007 6:05:31 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: newguy357

i cannot tell you how many times this happened:

1. i am writing a software program, and make an error;
2. the error is actually fate intervening, for suddenly my program runs perfectly, beyond my wildest expectations

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never
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morons


25 posted on 06/25/2007 6:09:41 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (jorge bush is the first mexican president)
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To: Chi-townChief
It should be attacked; if Darwin himself were around, he’d recognize the gaping holes in evolution and work on correcting them. Right now, with their circle-the-wagons approach, these “scientists” are making evolution look like global warming.

The theory has been attacked from day one and people have spent the last 150 years working to fill in the holes. Are there still gaps in our understanding? Yes. But nowhere near the gaps in creationism. And with intelligent design it's hard to tell because the entire premise of that seems to be that by poking holes in evolution and saying if evolution is wrong then intelligent design is correct by default. That's not science, either.

26 posted on 06/25/2007 6:09:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Greg F

Correct. Species evolve within their own species but do not evolve into another species. Macro-evolution is just as much a matter of faith as any other religion.


27 posted on 06/25/2007 6:12:19 AM PDT by badgerbengal (Close the boarder and open fire!)
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To: Greg F
It’s pretty weak actually given the whole world and all species to observe . . .

Part of the theory also is that this process happened over millions of years. You want to see it happen over a few decades.

28 posted on 06/25/2007 6:12:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Greg F

Oh yes, we have examples of contemporary speciation, plus cases of incipient speciation.


29 posted on 06/25/2007 6:16:28 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: Non-Sequitur

So there is millions of years of evidence to work with. Still, as far as I know, no proof of any species evolving into another species based on any evidence. I’m asking honestly though if there is a claim that there is proof one species evolving into another, I have just read that there is none . . . that the “missing link” is still missing . . . for every species on the planet.


30 posted on 06/25/2007 6:17:00 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Chi-townChief
"The theory of evolution," Grande says, "benefits a society interested in improving."

Faith in a Creator to which all will be held accountable improves society immeasurably more than some theory whose whole purpose is to remove belief in said Creator to the end that all will define their own morality, leading to anarchy and eventual enslavement to those who garner enough power to define right and wrong for everyone else.

31 posted on 06/25/2007 6:17:05 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Now there’s a built-in defense mechanism if I ever saw one.

“It takes million of years to observe, therefore I win the argument in this lifetime.”


32 posted on 06/25/2007 6:17:11 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: Chi-townChief

What, education? I’m quite interested in it. Did you have questions?


33 posted on 06/25/2007 6:18:06 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: flintsilver7
Now there’s a built-in defense mechanism if I ever saw one.

As opposed to "God did it?"

34 posted on 06/25/2007 6:18:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: ahayes
Oh yes, we have examples of contemporary speciation, plus cases of incipient speciation. Show the proof of contemporary speciation; I'm not asking a trick question. I've read that there is no proof of creation of one species from another, don't claim to have made a huge study of it.
35 posted on 06/25/2007 6:18:41 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: flintsilver7

I’m sorry, but we cannot be blamed for the slow pace of major evolutionary change. Fortunately we have records of it in the form of genetic evidence and fossil evidence.


36 posted on 06/25/2007 6:18:52 AM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: Non-Sequitur

I didn’t say that. From a debate perspective it’s fairly cheap to say that your process takes millions of years, because you can counter nearly any claim with that statement.


37 posted on 06/25/2007 6:21:00 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: ahayes

Where is it?


38 posted on 06/25/2007 6:21:25 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: Non-Sequitur

Correct - that’s why I like how intelligent design has come forward in the last few years. For too long, many have just sat back and said, “evolution - case closed” just as the global warming folks are trying to do. As we have seen, what works with lab rats doesn’t necessarily work with people.


39 posted on 06/25/2007 6:21:29 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Greg F

Not only are the “missing links” still missing,

but where are the millions of minute “mistakes” that didn’t make it?

And how about the impossible odds of the flagellum, requiring 17 simultaneous mutatations, none of which, in any other combination other than the exact one that we see today, could be of any evolutionary benefit?


40 posted on 06/25/2007 6:22:29 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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