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To: Jonathon Spectre
Perhaps we could teach this creation story:


The Creation of Men and Women

When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.

The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked. "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.

California Indian creation story


6 posted on 06/25/2007 6:06:03 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Wallace Muhammad, founder of the Black Muslims, taught that the white race was created by African scientists in a test tube 10,000 years ago. Why not teach that? Kind of combines creation science with intelligent design.


8 posted on 06/25/2007 6:09:10 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Coyoteman
Perhaps we could teach this creation story:

If that butters your toast, have at it.

In fact, when I was in grade school, I read lots of creation stories. They were pretty interesting, although none quite as lurid as the one you just posted.

18 posted on 06/25/2007 6:18:57 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Coyoteman
No, didn't happen that way. A young maiden woke up one day and decided to go down to the river for some water. She ran into a handsome young man. Next thing you know she has all kinds of kids and the young man is over on the other side of the river running with the wild reindeer herds.

She didn't see him again until Spring. He came back.

He became Reindeer Man and she became Herb Woman. The kids grew up to be the Human Beings.

This is an authentic Ice Age story far older than 10,000 years. The next story in the line up is about the mother with two daughters. She told her man to take them someplace to find husbands for the girls.

He took them to a town where all the men were homosexual. They preferred even visiting Reindeer spirits. Eventually the town was destroyed by ice and the woman and her family fled into the wilderness.

Obviously she couldn't find any husbands for the daughters so she turned into stone. Her husband then slept with the daughters and got them pregnant.

There are some other really, really, really old stories from the Good Old Days when the Sa'ami ruled the North.

22 posted on 06/25/2007 6:27:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Coyoteman

Here’s the Cherokee Version of Creation -

The earth is a great island floating in a sea of water, and suspended at each of the four cardinal points by a cord hanging down from the sky vault, which is of solid rock. When the world grows old and worn out, the people will die and the cords will break and let the earth sink down into the ocean, and all will be water again. The Indians are afraid of this.

When all was water, the animals were above in Gälûñ’lätï, beyond the arch; but it was very much crowded, and they were wanting more room. They wondered what was below the water, and at last Dâyuni’sï, “Beaver’s Grandchild,” the little Water-beetle, offered to go and see if it could learn. It darted in every direction over the surface of the water, but could find no firm place to rest. Then it dived to the bottom and came up with some soft mud, which began to grow and spread on every side until it became the island which we call the earth. It was afterward fastened to the sky with four cords, but no one remembers who did this.

At first the earth was flat and very soft and wet. The animals were anxious to get down, and sent out different birds to see if it was yet dry, but they found no place to alight and came back again to Gälûñ’lätï. At last it seemed to be time, and they sent out the Buzzard and told him to go and make ready for them. This was the Great Buzzard, the father of all the buzzards we see now. He flew all over the earth, low down near the ground, and it was still soft. When he reached the Cherokee country, he was very tired, and his wings began to flap and strike the ground, and wherever they struck the earth there was a valley, and where they turned up again there was a mountain. When the animals above saw this, they were afraid that the whole world would be mountains, so they called him back, but the Cherokee country remains full of mountains to this day.

When the earth was dry and the animals came down, it was still dark, so they got the sun and set it in a track to go every day across the island from east to west, just overhead. It was too hot this way, and Tsiska’gïlï’, the Red Crawfish, had his shell scorched a bright red, so that his meat was spoiled; and the Cherokee do not eat it.

The conjurers put the sun another hand-breadth higher in the air, but it was still too hot. They raised it another time, and another, until it was seven handbreadths high and just under the sky arch. Then it was right, and they left it so. This is why the conjurers call the highest place Gûlkwâ’gine Di’gälûñ’lätiyûñ’, “the seventh height,” because it is seven hand-breadths above the earth. Every day the sun goes along under this arch, and returns at night on the upper side to the starting place.

There is another world under this, and it is like ours in everything—animals, plants, and people—save that the seasons are different. The streams that come down from the mountains are the trails by which we reach this underworld, and the springs at their heads are the doorways by which we enter, it, but to do this one must fast and, go to water and have one of the underground people for a guide. We know that the seasons in the underworld are different from ours, because the water in the springs is always warmer in winter and cooler in summer than the outer air.

When the animals and plants were first made—we do not know by whom—they were told to watch and keep awake for seven nights, just as young men now fast and keep awake when they pray to their medicine. They tried to do this, and nearly all were awake through the first night, but the next night several dropped off to sleep, and the third night others were asleep, and then others, until, on the seventh night, of all the animals only the owl, the panther, and one or two more were still awake. To these were given the power to see and to go about in the dark, and to make prey of the birds and animals which must sleep at night. Of the trees only the cedar, the pine, the spruce, the holly, and the laurel were awake to the end, and to them it was given to be always green and to be greatest for medicine, but to the others it was said: “Because you have not endured to the end you shall lose your, hair every winter.”

Men came after the animals and plants. At first there were only a brother and sister until he struck her with a fish and told her to multiply, and so it was. In seven days a child was born to her, and thereafter every seven days another, and they increased very fast until there was danger that the world could not keep them. Then it was made that a woman should have only one child in a year, and it has been so ever since.


28 posted on 06/25/2007 6:42:44 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Coyoteman

As usual, very interesting parallels to the true creation story.


39 posted on 06/25/2007 6:56:14 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: Coyoteman

Technically you’re “story” is just about the creation of
man and woman. I am not sure it would qualify as a
full creation story, but just a part. The Gilgamesh
story is a bit more complete.


97 posted on 06/25/2007 8:47:22 PM PDT by Getready (Truth and wisdom are more elusive, and valuable, than gold and diamonds)
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To: Coyoteman

I’d pay $12 to see that movie.


105 posted on 06/25/2007 9:28:13 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: Coyoteman

Biblical creation fact:
Genesis 1
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


112 posted on 06/26/2007 12:00:19 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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