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FRED OR DUNCAN
N/A ^ | 26 June 2007 | NAPSCOORDINATOR

Posted on 06/26/2007 1:00:05 PM PDT by napscoordinator

A discussion thread about Fred vs Duncan


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: conservative; duncanhunter; election; electionpresident; familyvalues; fredthompson; morals; neither
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To: Antoninus

Hopefully, they have no impact on anyone regarding their opinion of individuals.

But they better influence your political strategy or you will be in for a big shock when the final numbers are tallied.

If Hunter were “in the race” in the numbers, your ignoring the polls would make some sense, up to a point.

But he has never been “in the race” according to voter polling data anywhere. Last I saw, he was a long way from carrying his own state, and not even on the radar in any other state. It’s tough to win a national election like that.

Now to ignore that takes no sense, but blind faith.

I have blind faith in my Lord... But in no politician.

I still can’t get past 28 years in congress and nobody in the country ever heard of him until two months ago???


281 posted on 06/28/2007 4:39:40 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Antoninus

I quip, you write paragraphs, and somehow I’m defensive?

ROTFLMAO

Duncan Hunter will NOT get the RNC or DNC party nomination for 2008.


282 posted on 06/28/2007 5:01:08 PM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: All; PlainOleAmerican

“The idea that amnesty must be accepted in order to achieve secure and enforceable borders is absurd.” Duncan Hunter

Bingo!

Who do the lib Dems and RINOs think they’re kidding?

Finish building the fence from Duncan Hunter’s bill that was put into law, and signed by the president!

There is only 11 miles of a single fence built, and it’s supposed to be an 854 mile DOUBLE fence!

Hunter said that, as president, he will have the fence built in six months, and he WILL!!!!

DUNCAN HUNTER gets things done!


283 posted on 06/28/2007 5:16:24 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“Oh, I forgot to mention, I HATE fences.

I have found NO need for fences. I have guns...”

Golleeeee - YOU hate fences, and your point is????

Tell that to Israel who can’t understand why anyone in this country would be against fences, because fencing has SAVED LIVES in Israel.

We’ve had guns at our house for years, and dogs, but two men came to our back door at night with flashlights right up on the porch. Thankfully the dogs scared them away, but they were too close for comfort.

We built a fence around the house, and nobody has been on our back porch since.


284 posted on 06/28/2007 5:22:38 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Petronski

Who WILL get the nomination?

Be careful, cuz I might save your post and remind you later. :)

Folks seem to think that whatever is going on at the moment is a done deal.

Not so.

Remember Howard Scream??

Bill Clinton was 2% in the polls in October of ‘91

John Kerry was 4% with 3 weeks to go.

And so it goes.................


285 posted on 06/28/2007 5:27:19 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“If Hunter were “in the race” in the numbers, your ignoring the polls would make some sense, up to a point.”

Bill Clinton was 2% in the polls in October of ‘91, so by your logic, if Hunter has 2% by October of ‘91, he will be POTUS.

Thanks for the encouraging news.

And to think I thought you were a naysayer. lol


286 posted on 06/28/2007 5:31:08 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: All

DUNCAN HUNTER is WORTH FIGHTING FOR! A STRONG CONSERVATIVE!

1) STRONGLY pro-life - a 26 year pro-life history NO FLIP FLOP HERE;

2) wrote the bill that was SIGNED INTO LAW for an 854 mile fence;

3) knows his defense: AMONG OTHER THINGS was Chairman of the Armed Services Committee when the Republicans had the majority, fought hard for the missle defense shield, and personally, won a medal in Viet Nam & his son did two tours in Iraq, including Fallujah, and will do a 3rd tour in Afghanistan (so he has a lot a stake);

4) understands the Red China threat and China’s trade imbalance through cheating;

5) voted for traditional marriage between a man and a woman through HJ Res 88

6) A+ rating from the National Rifle Association;

7) 100% rating from the Eagle Forum.

(8) 92% rating from the American Conservative Union;

(9)100% from the Concerned Women for America;

(10) 100% from the Christian Coalition;

(11) 100% from the Campaign for Working Families.


287 posted on 06/28/2007 5:43:34 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

No fence for me... For over 200 years, no fence was needed. Only when politicians decided to stop enforcing laws did the subject of a fence come up. You and I can cross that fence, no matter how they build it.

The fence will not fix Washington’s support for illegal migration.

The fence is not being built to keep people out. It’s being built to shut people up. It’s a demonstration of how they want to stop illegal immigration. But if they really want to stop it, stand our troops on the border, allow border patrol to do their jobs, instead of jailing them for trying to do their job.

You want a fence because you think a fence is the only answer. But the fence is no answer at all. Hunter is wrong on this issue. It’s akin to Tommy Thompson saying everyone should have a ID chip to catch criminals, or nobody should have guns so that criminals won’t have guns. It’s the same insanity.

You can have your fence. I don’t want it. I want our laws taken seriously in Washington and in Mexico. Until the price of ignoring our laws is too high, for both politicians and illegal invaders.


288 posted on 06/28/2007 5:53:29 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Sun

You are on your way to turning America into Islael. Israel has built fences for decades and their people are still blown up on a regular basis.

The fence is NONSENSE...


289 posted on 06/28/2007 5:55:08 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
You can have your fence. I don’t want it. I want our laws taken seriously in Washington and in Mexico.

One without the other won't work as effectively. We need both.

290 posted on 06/28/2007 6:01:03 PM PDT by crunk
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To: Sun

Who WILL get the nomination?

NOT Duncan.


291 posted on 06/28/2007 6:08:59 PM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: Petronski

Wait and see.

Duncan is used to being a dark horse. He ran against an incumbent in California, and WON!


292 posted on 06/28/2007 6:28:44 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Many lives have been saved in Israel because of their fence.

Perhaps the reason you are such a naysayer is because you don’t do your research.

I do.


293 posted on 06/28/2007 6:30:09 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

Yeah, then Bush Sr. broke his promise and raised taxes. Then Ross Perot took 19% of the vote at election time and Bill Clinton became President with a popular minority.

Most Americans voted AGAINST Bill Clinton. But Ross Perot got him elected anyway.

Apples and organges my friend.

Hunter is NO Bill Clinton. But he could be another Ross Perot.


294 posted on 06/28/2007 7:40:51 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Sun

If you knew my background, your comment would be as laughable to you as it is to me...


295 posted on 06/28/2007 7:42:12 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: crunk

REAGAN = Tear down that wall!
HUNTER = Build that fence!


296 posted on 06/28/2007 7:43:26 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Pardon me, but actually Hunter does know his stats re the fence.
It HAS reduced crime here in SD.
You really can’t imagine the depth of the problem unless you live here, I guess.
(I’m 5 miles fr the border)
I don’t blame anyone for not understanding.

I agree, though ~ building the fence MUST include enforcing the law.
Fred emphasized that also today in his interview w Carl Cameron.


297 posted on 06/28/2007 7:47:41 PM PDT by b9
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To: PlainOleAmerican

You don’t get out much, do you?

Hunter is not running in a 3rd party.


298 posted on 06/28/2007 7:47:56 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: All; Calpernia

“I loved this comment from his press conference:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857483/posts
REP. HUNTER HOLDS NEWS CONFERENCE ON IMMIGRATION ISSUES

>>>The president’s already signed the bill that mandates 854 miles of border fence. We’ve got almost $1 billion, cash on hand, right now to build that fence and they’ve only built a paltry 13 miles in seven months. Now, you’ve got individual ranchers in this country who have built more fence than the entire government of the United States of America.”

Thought I’d spread the word, Calpernia.


299 posted on 06/28/2007 7:50:54 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

Thanks!


300 posted on 06/28/2007 7:55:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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