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To: tubebender; steelie; marsh2; iconoclast; SierraWasp; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge
"What would the water flows be in a typical September if there were no dams on the Klamath ? My bet is you couldn’t get a shallow draft drift boat over the riffles. The rivers feeding cool snow melt water are the Shasta, Scott and Salmon Rivers, all below the dams and they barely keep the riffles passable."

Thanks to Steelie for capturing and saving this Klamath River Flow Chart as it magically disappeared after Freepers started questioning the water flows before and after the kill.

The father of a very good friend was born in the early 1900's. He lived in Willits all of his life and from his early years to his 70's, he and his family hunted coastal deer in the Klamath river area in August and early September. He had early photos of the Klamath during his hunting trips. It was very low, filled with dying moss easy to wade for miles around their camp.

That was the normal flow of the Klamath in late spring, summer and early fall with California's usual dry and hot weather along most of the Klamaths river length. Minimal if any rain falls during those months with very high heat during the days.

Those conditions are why Coho Salmon aren't native salmon in the Klamath and many of N California's rivers and streams.

The fish killed by the damn operators, fish and game and the drug polluters had no more special value to this country and us, than farm raised chickens

The first documented Coho transplant with the DNA genes from Oregon were planted in 1895.

The making of Coho an endangered species in the Klamath is nothing but fraud to put farmers, ranchers, loggers and salmon fishers out of business.

Any Coho killed in the now called Cheney Kill were hatchery fish and are not endangered anymore than the hatchery Kings killed in the same low water incidence. Those Coho's had the same value to this country as farm/hatchery raised chickens re any special value beyond eating value.

205 posted on 06/29/2007 7:13:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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To: Grampa Dave

I believe your hydrograph shows the slug of water released from the Klamath Project after the fish kill started in mid-September. It was to mitigate the situation. The Trinity release would have been much smaller and earlier before the die off.


214 posted on 06/29/2007 1:29:37 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Grampa Dave
Here's some more of the same tripe!!!

They relentless, remorseless and ruthless people!!!

Including your Mike Thompson from St. Helena!!!

218 posted on 07/09/2007 4:21:55 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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