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Chavez's Anaconda Embrace
IBD Editorials ^ | 27 June 2007 | Staff

Posted on 06/28/2007 4:37:10 PM PDT by Kitten Festival

Latin America: Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez has expropriated $4.5 billion in assets from two U.S. oil firms. It's an ugly loss, but they will live. What's in doubt is Venezuela's future.

No one knows what exactly will take over the mighty Orinoco-region investments that ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil will likely vacate as Chavez declares yet another "people's victory."

But there's little chance the country will be able to match what those two companies could add to oil output and national development there. And the loser will be Venezuela.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: conoco; energy; exxon; hugochavez; hugoping; oil
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With Chavez around, Venezuela is having the life choked right out of it - and fast.
1 posted on 06/28/2007 4:37:11 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: Kitten Festival

Sounds like the perfect Fidel Clone.

He will chase away Americans and other capitalists.

His country will become another Cuba unless some brave soul eliminates the problem.


2 posted on 06/28/2007 4:39:18 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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To: Kitten Festival
Last person out burn the refineries to the ground!!

I wish.....

3 posted on 06/28/2007 4:40:39 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Kitten Festival

Zimbabwe II.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 4:41:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kitten Festival

Communism does not survive — it is a failed system, time after time. Chavez’ days are numbered as he does more and more typically stupid socialist tricks -—

Hey Hillary, are you watching this ???


5 posted on 06/28/2007 4:45:04 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Kitten Festival
Why does the US allow American companies to be robbed by a tin horn communist dictator. Make them pay fair market value for the “expropriated” material.
6 posted on 06/28/2007 4:54:33 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: EagleUSA

“Communism does not survive — it is a failed system, time after time. Chavez’ days are numbered as he does more and more typically stupid socialist tricks -—”

Chavez isn’t any more a Socialist then Hillary. They are both common criminals using politics as a cover for their thievery.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 4:57:05 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (THE US SENATE IS THE MOST CORRUPT BODY POLITIC SINCE THE ROMAN EMPIRE.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

They are both common criminals using politics as a cover for their thievery.
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That is certainly one perspective. But we both know their list of crimes goes for beyond “thievery”. Beyond anything we will ever know. But agreed, they are both total criminal reprobates, both repulsive, both not at all qualified to lead democratic nations, and so on. The list is too long.


8 posted on 06/28/2007 4:59:30 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Grampa Dave

“His country will become another Cuba unless some brave soul eliminates the problem.”

More like Zimbabwe, a country formerly known as the ‘breadbasket of Africa’ that can no longer feed itself now that they ran off the white farmers. This country will no longer be able to produce oil in a few short years.


9 posted on 06/28/2007 5:05:02 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Either way, the people will suffer unless they cure the problem now.


10 posted on 06/28/2007 5:07:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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To: Grampa Dave

You’re certainly correct. However, too many of his people think he’s the second coming to expect any changes soon. I fear we missed our chance a few years ago.


11 posted on 06/28/2007 5:11:01 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Nope, China will move in and fill the vacuum.


12 posted on 06/28/2007 5:16:03 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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The Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency (MIGA) is a member of the taxpayer-backed World Bank.

Doesn't MIGA cover political risks for corporations (who hate government interference)? Risks include monetary transfer restrictions, expropriation, war and civil disturbance, and host government's breach or repudiation of a contractual agreement.

Corporations (who hate government interference) can be compensated for their losses, I believe. Taxpayer-backed Ex-Im Bank, OPIC, other government programs, as well as special legislation purchased from Congress are also available to corporations (who hate government interference).

I am pretty sure that coverage is not automatic so maybe these corporations (who hate government interference) will not be paid -- at least not automatically. They may have to purchase legislation from Congress to cover their losses, if any.

13 posted on 06/28/2007 5:57:21 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Kitten Festival

Bravo to Conoco and Exxon for telling the Hugo where to step off. I think I’ll buy some stock in those companies.


14 posted on 06/28/2007 6:02:01 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: Kitten Festival

Hugo today said he wanted nukes. If he gets anything near a reactor, we ought to clobber his personal home and take the little thug out. With no apologies.


15 posted on 06/28/2007 9:54:22 PM PDT by phillyfanatic ( w)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Doesn't MIGA cover political risks for corporations (who hate government interference)? Risks include monetary transfer restrictions, expropriation, war and civil disturbance, and host government's breach or repudiation of a contractual agreement.

Excellent question. There may be some utility in the World Bank afterall.

I'm worried about a couple of things:
1. The world markets have tended to reward the Chavez's and the Ahmedinejehad's (or whatever the thing calls itself) by bidding up the price of crude. The great game goes on.

2. The timing of Paul Wolfowitz 'affair' is curious in light of this. At any rate, Wolfowitz's absence is not going to help any such remedy.

3. Chavez's and Amed... seem to have calculated that we are preoccupied with the WOT. So far the gamble's paying off

4. Is the Monroe doctrine completely kaput?

5.They say oil is 'fungible' once out of the ground. Is it so while in the ground? Isn't much of the oil accessible from neigboring Brazil and Colombia?

Just curious what you'd think.

Thanks.

16 posted on 06/29/2007 5:19:45 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Kitten Festival
Chavez is getting all cocky because the Orinoco basin has potentially 300 billion barrels of oil. One little problem, though. It's very heavy crude. You could literally put it in a dump truck and haul it off. It's near impossible to get it to flow out of the ground and flow into a pipeline. The few companies that can do it just got kicked out of Venezuela.

Hugo is a moron. I am in the oil and gas industry here in Houston, and Venezuela is losing their experienced geophysicists faster than you can say free health care. Educated Venezuelans are getting the heck out of there.

17 posted on 06/29/2007 5:44:04 AM PDT by avacado
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To: tsomer
I was attempting to be a bit sarcastic. U.S. corporations complain of "government interference" and flee the U.S. for Red China. (Red China! -- to get away from government.. oh, that's right, there's no pesky labor laws protecting workers there.) Meanwhile corporations gladly suffer "government interference" when it benefits them.

Your post did invoke my memory, 1996: Venezuela's dirty oil barred from U.S. It violates the Clean Air Act standards, World Trade Organization rules against Clinton Administration. Clinton buckles.

I think that the Monroe doctrine is "waiting and watching," though I believe we have forces fighting in South America in limited numbers just like our forces in the Philippines.

Oil may cease being fungible if the "peak oil" crowd is correct and oil becomes more dear as demand drains what's left of the oil, in or out of the ground, I read some place. More and more nations will take control away from oil companies, the same source suggested -- and somehow China will wind up with a lot of it. (The next world war? Number 4.)

I don't know about the oil's accessibility to Brazil and Colombia.

18 posted on 06/29/2007 4:15:35 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: avacado

What other areas (aside from CA oil sands) offer potential. Any hope for making the US Oil Sands float? Just asking because you seem familiar with the business.


19 posted on 02/20/2008 1:48:28 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Supposedly Shell has devised a way to get oil out of our shales for $30/bbl.


20 posted on 02/20/2008 1:49:51 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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