Posted on 06/28/2007 5:36:05 PM PDT by Reform Canada
More BS, different angle.
truth...
Sounds as plausible as anything else I’ve read.
Look, all I want to see about global warming, is some consensus among reasonable scientists, and then a presentation of the basis for their conclusions in some logical format we can read, review and understand.
Absent that, it is all hooey. But I am a lot more likely to believe in natural climate changes, even just the one described above, even the one above that we are in a warming end-of-gap period a few thousand years before the next protracted ice age. OK... It’s got to come some time...
I prefer global warming. Things grow when it’s warm. Everything dies when it freezes.
Nutball. What is the mechanism by which warmer weather could cause volcanic eruptions and earthquakes?
They're driven by plate tectonics.
Well this makes more sense than the global warming gunk.
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Global Warming - Chicken Little “The Sky’s falling.”
Global Cooling - Chicken Little “The Sky’s falling.”
“. He maintains that the record clearly shows that global warming always precedes an ice age.”
I’m really glad to hear that; can’t you just imagine waking up from a bitter cold winter just to see the ice come in?
Nope.
Well, we have had 16 straight days of rain in Oklahoma ..........about 30 inches of rain at my home in the past 6 weeks. The normal annual precipitation is 30 inches. Something unusual is happening! Where is Al Gore when you need him?
I’m dreaming of a White Christmas...
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow....
No it is not. No one is saying mankind is or has caused "global cooling". The historical record, from multiple source and methods of divining that record, shows these cycles of warming followed by cooling. How rapid is hard to measure, because it is so short geologically speaking.
Here is one version of that record.
Note on graph presentation: The heavier temperature lines 160,000 BP to present reflect more data points for this time period, not necessarily greater temperature variability.
As you can see, the cycle is about 90,000 years, with 12,000 year interglacial periods between 78,000 year glacial periods. The current interglacial is about as long as they get. We are overdue for a nice cold spell.
So far, the global catastrophism crowd has not done as well as 50/50. I suspect many have chased trends - just to see them reverse. That is one way to get an abysmal batting average:
http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp
But I mean no disrespect for this article. Economics uses the terminology "endogenous" - within the model, and "exogenous" - outside the model. For much of earth's history, carbon dioxide seems to have been endogenous. Carbon dioxide is released from the ocean with warming, absorbed with cooling. But changes to earth's orbit would be outside the climate model - a cause rather than an effect. I hope to learn more about Milankovich cycles sometime.
Maybe we will have to crank up coal and gas furnaces for heat, and oh yes, maybe some greenhouse effect too!
I imagine the mechanism is that which he describes in the article: the position of the earth in relation to the sun as it makes it ways ‘round and ‘round (i.e. gravity amongst other things.)
No fooling. What about me? I just moved BACK to Alaska...
Bingo. Time to watch "Snowball Earth" again, I guess.
Could warmer weather cause changes in the polar icecaps, shifting enough weight to make a difference in the movement of the plates?
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