Posted on 06/30/2007 5:45:09 AM PDT by Liz
If you think the defeat of the 2007 immigration bill is unworthy of pride, you're too negative. First of all, you think this defeat is nothing because "we just have the same bad situation we've had since 1964, 1986 etc."
You're wrong.
Why? Because in 1964 and 1986, immigration bills were signed. In 2007, the bill couldn't even make it out of Congress.
In 1964 and 1986, the citizens sat on their apathetic asses and let their government pass amnesty. In 2007, both conservative and liberal citizens mobilized to defeat this bill.
Do you see the trend?
We've passed the tipping point.
This ain't 1964 and 1986.
If you can't see how good this is, just pat yourself on the back for living in denial.
What could be more “fair” than a citizen choosing to listen to what he wants to on the radio? If liberal talk isn’t there it’s because it has no value to consumers of radio. It has no value because the liberal viewpoint is carried by every wavelength emitted by every other broadcast medium. Liberal talk radio would be a duplication, and therefore unnecessary in the marketplace, let alone to serve the purpose of achieving “fairness”.
You're right, of course. This isn't '86 or '64.
The illegal problem is orders of magnitude bigger, and growing.
One thing that's similar is that the problem has just been kicked down the road again. Reagan kicked the problem into 2007. Now the problem has been punted to the 2008 prez election and beyond because (1) Bush has no intention of enforcing the border, and (2) no true fix conservative bill is going to pass Pelosi/Reid's morass.
Meanwhile, we're so proud (before the fall).
I've just seen the right 'win' so many times, only to start self-congratulating so much that we immediately lose the initiative. It's the nature of Russell Kirk's "Conservative Mind."
Call me 'negative,' dour, whatever. I just think we're a long way from cheering our way out of this hole.
I don't think you can do it with this president... or this senate... and no where did I say all is well in the Republic. Enjoy the victory... we beat a stacked-deck.
And I’m trying to tell you we’ve passed the tipping point. Americans aren’t going to take it anymore. June 2007 is the best that the illegals will ever have. It’s all downhill from here for them. The world (including all illegals who are here and all potential illegals sitting outisde of our borders) has never seen Americans stand up for themselves against them until June 2007.
This is what’s different.
For the first time in our nation’s history, not just Conservatives, but most Americans have stopped the feds from coddling the illegals.
Do you think this is going to encourage more aliens from coming here? Do you think this encourages the illegals who are currently here to feel comfortable?
We’re different. And the world has taken notice.
Prior to June 2007, when did Conservatives 'win' on the immigration issue?
I am a long time Rush fan and admire his insight. I equally admire his entertainment value. His ability to espouse conservative values while being humorous is the secret to his success. The left hasn’t anyone comparable because, even though several leftists may be humorous, when they attempt to forward their values the result is equivalent to the sound of fingernails being drawn accross a blackboard. Shrillness and funny don’t mix.
That being said, the most passionate radio host I heard on the matter was Laura Ingraham. Her efforts against the abominable shamnesty bill were tireless. Her sense of humor is also exquisite!
First off, if it weren’t for talk radio, how many would be uninformed about the shamnesty that was the Z visa? The MSM certainly wasn’t talking about it nor were the politicians involved except after the cat was out of the bag to defend the Z visa by saying that the amnesty wasn’t amnesty and that was the total extent of the explanation.
Secondly, the Morning Call here in PA had a front page article stating that “right wing talk radio listeners” were to blame for the bill’s death. This is a left leaning newspaper and the letters to the editor, which are normally overly left leaning and Bush bashing, were all opposed to the bill and vehemently for enforcing our current laws on the books. The only parts of the paper that were for it would be columns and editorials which no matter how the paper tried to sell it were all met with more opposition letters to the editor.
Talk radio may have got the ball rolling, but after the cat was out of the bag, it was the entire citizenry that was opposed to and killed this bill.
Mel Martinez, his next move is to change the title of the RNC to the La Raza National Commitee.
Focus on more than one issue. Tax cuts, court nominees, etc.
Hawking postulates the central mass of the Singularity connects to another universe.
We have seen that this central mass is composed of global greed, special interest groups, professional victims, and global conmen. Gov't giveaways, foreign aid, and secret offshore bank accounts escape into the "black hole" of endless US government funding.
Once taxpayers' money passes the event horizon of the singularity, no more information comes out concerning its true whereabouts.
The Golden Singularity has attracted global conmen galore, and the incredibly corrupt denizens of the Third World.
THE WORD IS OUT: Globaloney is kaput. Legislators, and others at the levers of the US government (and candidates for office, at all levels), better perceive issues through the prism of the red, white, and blue.........or we shall know the reason why.
Yes. I think there are more illegals in America today than there were yesterday. Not a single thing has changed on our border enforcement, and there is no foreseeable change in enforcementwhile Bush is in office, and there is clearly no majority in congress willing to expand funding on fences now.
If a Hilly or Rudy gets in in 2008, then the spigot will open further.
Do you think this encourages the illegals who are currently here to feel comfortable?
Yes. "Status quo" is quoted the same in spanish as it is in english. Is La Raza putting out crybaby press releases? Also, yes. But they've not lost anything but another opportunity. They now have a fundraising rallying cry for dims in the 2008 election while 'true conservatives' sharpen their long knives to teach the GOP a lesson.
Mitch MCConnel is the one person who derailed the rest of the Democrat's 100 day contract on America, yet he's persona non grata in 'true conservative' corners today.
We’re different. And the world has taken notice.
Now on this I agree. The world has taken notice of talk-radio/bloggoslation review. We now have activist conservatives, something which used to be an oxymoron.
But the world also took notice when Howard Dean revolutionized the world of fundraising on the net. How's he doin?
The more I read about the 06 election, the more I'm convinced that the RNC engineered some of our losses, turned seats over to Democrats, in order to further Bush's amnesty agenda. We lost our majorities to Mexico--
Not only do we need a Prez that represents American citizens, but we need party leadership that actually represents the party.
“ALL IS NOT well in the Republic?!?!?!
Hello? We still have 20 million illegals and more every day. How are we going to get the exucutive office to enforce the border?
Stopping a bad bill in congress is good, but it was a choice between bad and worse, and so now we just have the same bad situation we’ve had since 1964, 1986 etc.”
Call or email our congressional leaders and let them know that they have to push for enforcement of our current immigration laws. Fining employers, deporting illegals, taking away the social services extended to these law breakers.
That was pretty evident leading up to the election, but it was confirmed beyond any question when Tony Snow announced, "Now president bush has a congress he can work with."
BTW I should add that I agree with your tagline. The “elites” will certainly try to take revenge. Every time they pop up, we have to play Whackamole.
Yeah, Laura’s good.
Very true.
In some ways, I don’t blame the President — he’s doing exactly what he has said he’d do all along. Amnesty for illegals has been a dream of his since the early 90’s.
Martinez is a different story. I don’t recall him ever telling anyone that, if elected Senator, he’d act like he was elected by illegal aliens and that the only American citizens he felt obligated to represent were fellow Hispanics.
He can’t be recalled, but 2012 will be here before we know it and it’ll be time to find an actual American conservative to support for his seat. The American conservative can be a Hispanic — I sort of hope that it is — but he’ll be an American first and not the racist we now have.
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