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Was Immigration Bill a Democratic Trap?
DickMorris.com ^
| June 29, 2007
| Dick Morris
Posted on 07/01/2007 5:13:44 PM PDT by Signalman
Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election?
Was it a set up all along? Did the Dems lure Bush into a compromise knowing that the GOP base would go ballistic and inflict a high profile defeat on the president sure to cripple his presidency and give the Hispanics a well publicized slap-in-the-face courtesy of the GOP?
Only my appreciation of the lack of strategic intellect in the Democratic Party inhibits me from saying yes to all these questions. But I still wonder?
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; congress; deathofthegop; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: Bobkk47
The Pubs had more to lose than the Rats had the bill passed. BTW, the statistic I heard on Laura Ingraham radio show last week that only 4% of hispanics vote anyway.
To: Bobkk47
If they are ILLEGAL, they should not be able to vote.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:25:17 PM PDT
by
mathluv
(Never Forget!)
To: Bobkk47
The only Latinos who should be upset at what happened last week should those who can't legally vote anyway. Latinos are not the problem. The problem is having roughly as many illegal immigrants as legal ones, and having most of the illegal ones come from a single country. The fact that a very high percentage of illegal immigrants take more in social services than their labor is worth is another HUGE issue.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:25:36 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Anthropogenic Global Warming: A convenient lie designed to establish socialism by fear and deception)
To: AmericaUnited
many legal Hispanic immigrants were against this bill also. Senator Kennedy drew up this bill, with McCain a long time ago. It was a democratic bill. But Bush wanted it. The democrats said it was his, knowing it had a good chance of not passing. Bush was a built in scapegoat.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:29:34 PM PDT
by
bullfeather
(illegitimate non carborundum)
To: kjam22
as if the repubs had any chance at all at getting the latino vote with or without this immigragion bill. It would be great if Republicans would get back to campaigning on values. This is a proven winning strategy. Why are they adopting the strategy of the Democrats (group identity politics)?
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:30:59 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(Elections have consequences.)
To: Bobkk47
Yes it was a trap! No imigrants marched in the streets to see it passed, but 100 million democraps and repub-I can’ts screamed bloody murder to kill something a Republican President and a libveral murdering senator wanted passed. Yeah Dick, nice trap! Idiot!
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:31:37 PM PDT
by
Bommer
(Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
To: kjam22
Voting it screws them with the unions and with blacks. Also, if anything, it wasn’t open enough.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:31:49 PM PDT
by
misterrob
("I've never heard of anyone going on the disabled list with pulled fat." RIP Rod Beck)
To: Sybeck1
Some day it will matter....and soon.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:32:12 PM PDT
by
misterrob
("I've never heard of anyone going on the disabled list with pulled fat." RIP Rod Beck)
To: Bobkk47
Screw the (de)merits of the bill, politics and politics only is all that matters, right DICK?
Dickie thinks out of the (shoe)box, but never out of the beltway.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:32:20 PM PDT
by
JoeSixPack1
(Think not of today.)
To: Bobkk47
Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election? it does anyhow...that is a big part of this whole issue for many of us
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:33:17 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(George Bush....I want my money back I gave you. Trent Lott...kiss my Mississippi peckerwood butt)
To: AmericaUnited
Dick, take the toe out of your mouth and come up for air...Dang! You beat me to it!
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:33:54 PM PDT
by
Calusa
("Actually, we bogeyed the 17th hole and picked up on the 18th."L. Graham/Novak)
To: kjam22
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:33:55 PM PDT
by
radar101
(Dream Team--Hunter&Thompson)
To: BusterBear
Bingo. The Rat senators had fairly significant opposition to this bill by their union rank and file stalwarts. Sure the union officials could support it—at least in the service sectors because it would yield a huge increase in membership—and that is all that matters to the union boss.
Commie Tommy Harkin said afterward that he had opposed it because it was not fair enough to immigrants. UH huh. Harkin never comments on a vote before or after unless he felt big time heat. Most people in Iowa have no clue how he votes—he rarely tells them and is the key to his longevity.
It was not democrapper strategery—it was outright fear of future job prospects that brought these guys in line with the citizenry.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:35:49 PM PDT
by
petertare
(--)
To: Bobkk47
Sounds like Morris has been drinking the Karl Rove Kool Aid regarding Latinos and amnesty. It is all B.S.
If Republicans have the courage of their convictions and speak from the heart about the unfairness to LEGAL immigrants of amnesty, welfare, tuition, and free medical care for ILLEGALS, then the LEGAL Latino voters will respond, as they did in Arizona, nearly HALF of them voting for a Proposition to deny illegals all of those benefits.
To: Bobkk47
Perhpas it was a deliberate set-up. However, the ‘rats are going to get blowback. The GOP has gained points with the public in general as being strong on the illegal-immigrant issue, thanks to the conservatives in the party.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:36:39 PM PDT
by
expatpat
To: Bobkk47
Dick Morris
Proving once again that some people are a**holes all the time.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:37:09 PM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: Bobkk47
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:38:03 PM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: Bobkk47
Dick Morris has been clueless on this issue... this issue will save the Republican bacon in 2008...the base in rising up and rejecting so strongly the most disliked (crony/country club)elements of the party leadership that had lost the middle American “Reagan” independent & Democrats... to that group... the base rebellion and purging of the party is a good thing...
Nether the Dem loopy left or the Rep crony/country club right is where the majority of American are... but the Republican bases vision is closer to that majority of American then either party
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:38:11 PM PDT
by
tophat9000
(My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
To: diverteach
Laura Ingraham is correct....it is a small number of Hispanics who actually vote. I have heard its 4% to 6%.
Which totally discounts Morris’ claims. I think he is just pro-amnesty and uses baseless arguments to support his own agenda.
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:39:02 PM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American)
To: Bobkk47
Why would Latino US citizens only want to support politicians that reward criminal behavior, Dick?
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posted on
07/01/2007 5:40:11 PM PDT
by
Perchant
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