Posted on 07/01/2007 5:13:44 PM PDT by Signalman
Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election?
Was it a set up all along? Did the Dems lure Bush into a compromise knowing that the GOP base would go ballistic and inflict a high profile defeat on the president sure to cripple his presidency and give the Hispanics a well publicized slap-in-the-face courtesy of the GOP?
Only my appreciation of the lack of strategic intellect in the Democratic Party inhibits me from saying yes to all these questions. But I still wonder?
No it wasn’t a trap. The dems voted against it because they want to be re-elected at some point.
Moderator: The title should be, “Was Immigration Bill a Democratic Trap?
Please modify.
Why does it matter who the Hispanics vote for? The Republicans lost white males in 2006 from 2004.
OMG. certain freepers were posting along these lines a month ago.
Dick, take the tow out of your mouth and come up for air...
tow = toe
I have TOW missles on the brain.
The dems are the majority and any loss is there loss, no spin will change that
LOL.... as if the repubs had any chance at all at getting the latino vote with or without this immigragion bill.
I would say if Bush was stupid enough to fall for the trap—he deserved it.
I never wondered if your a Dick,Dick.
Morris is unfathomably stupid.
It's not a secret that amnesty would've created tens of millions of brand new Democrat voters, so voting for the bill was clearly in the 'Rat party's best interest. I suspect most Dems that voted to kill it feared for their jobs if they voted otherwise.
No it wasn’t a trap because the first thing that the President said after the 2006 election when the Dems were put in charge was the fact we could now get the immigration bill passed.
Better question would be to ask why our pro-border security/anti-illegal immigration/amnesty candidates were challenged by the WH candidates and what happened to the DC funding when the anti-illegal/amnesty candidates won.
Money flowed to your race if you were pro-amnesty and money was withheld if you were anti-amnesty in a lot of races.
>>Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election?<<
There is no telling what their motivation was - but it was a bad bill - it needed to be stopped.
Any latinos who are against illegal immigration most likely already vote GOP.
Yep... all 4 of them.
Compared to other 'minorities' especially compared to blacks, proportion of Hispanics voted Republicans has been higher. So, I don't think we can simply ignore them. Having said this, I am also aware the importance of the base--which has been marginalized by the party leaders.
I think Morris is out to lunch on this one!
Dick Morris - too clever for his own good. Many of the Democrats who were against the bill came from states where labor unions (non-hispanic controlled ones) are strong. Everyone is playing up the fact that the Republican base opposed this bill; but they never mention that the AFL-CIO was against the bill too. Also, they never mention that many Blacks were against it (the Black Caucus in Congress didn’t like it) - which would explain why some Democrat Senators from Southern states voted against it.
Why should the rejection of the "reform" affect Americans of Hispanic / Latino origin any more than Irish, etc. Like any other group, some cheer some don't.
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