1 posted on
07/01/2007 5:13:47 PM PDT by
Signalman
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To: Bobkk47
No it wasn’t a trap. The dems voted against it because they want to be re-elected at some point.
2 posted on
07/01/2007 5:15:32 PM PDT by
kjam22
(see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
To: Bobkk47
Moderator: The title should be, “Was Immigration Bill a Democratic Trap?
Please modify.
3 posted on
07/01/2007 5:15:44 PM PDT by
Signalman
To: Bobkk47
Why does it matter who the Hispanics vote for? The Republicans lost white males in 2006 from 2004.
4 posted on
07/01/2007 5:16:06 PM PDT by
Sybeck1
(Amnesty GOP members are betting on a Clinton nomination, to get their support back!)
To: Bobkk47
Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election? OMG. certain freepers were posting along these lines a month ago.
5 posted on
07/01/2007 5:16:54 PM PDT by
the invisib1e hand
(Life is an episode of Green Acres. THEN you die.)
To: Bobkk47
Dick, take the tow out of your mouth and come up for air...
To: Bobkk47
I would say if Bush was stupid enough to fall for the trap—he deserved it.
To: Bobkk47
I never wondered if your a Dick,Dick.
11 posted on
07/01/2007 5:18:39 PM PDT by
mdittmar
(May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
To: Bobkk47
"Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election?" Morris is unfathomably stupid.
It's not a secret that amnesty would've created tens of millions of brand new Democrat voters, so voting for the bill was clearly in the 'Rat party's best interest. I suspect most Dems that voted to kill it feared for their jobs if they voted otherwise.
12 posted on
07/01/2007 5:19:36 PM PDT by
Mr. Mojo
(There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
To: Bobkk47
No it wasn’t a trap because the first thing that the President said after the 2006 election when the Dems were put in charge was the fact we could now get the immigration bill passed.
Better question would be to ask why our pro-border security/anti-illegal immigration/amnesty candidates were challenged by the WH candidates and what happened to the DC funding when the anti-illegal/amnesty candidates won.
Money flowed to your race if you were pro-amnesty and money was withheld if you were anti-amnesty in a lot of races.
13 posted on
07/01/2007 5:20:22 PM PDT by
PhiKapMom
( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
To: Bobkk47
>>Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election?<<
There is no telling what their motivation was - but it was a bad bill - it needed to be stopped.
14 posted on
07/01/2007 5:20:24 PM PDT by
gondramB
(Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
To: Bobkk47
Some of those Democrats were elected to office because they ran on the platform that they were totally against amnesty, and would not support it. Besides, there won't be a lot of new Latino voters if there is no amnesty.
I think Morris is out to lunch on this one!
18 posted on
07/01/2007 5:23:37 PM PDT by
NRA2BFree
("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
To: Bobkk47
Dick Morris - too clever for his own good. Many of the Democrats who were against the bill came from states where labor unions (non-hispanic controlled ones) are strong. Everyone is playing up the fact that the Republican base opposed this bill; but they never mention that the AFL-CIO was against the bill too. Also, they never mention that many Blacks were against it (the Black Caucus in Congress didn’t like it) - which would explain why some Democrat Senators from Southern states voted against it.
To: All
Do all the experts actuall believe that
Americans of Hispanic / Latino origin have more loyalty to Hispanic / Latino countries than loyalty for the United States of America? Are the "experts" nuts?
Why should the rejection of the "reform" affect Americans of Hispanic / Latino origin any more than Irish, etc. Like any other group, some cheer some don't.
20 posted on
07/01/2007 5:24:00 PM PDT by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
To: Bobkk47
The Pubs had more to lose than the Rats had the bill passed. BTW, the statistic I heard on Laura Ingraham radio show last week that only 4% of hispanics vote anyway.
To: Bobkk47
If they are ILLEGAL, they should not be able to vote.
22 posted on
07/01/2007 5:25:17 PM PDT by
mathluv
(Never Forget!)
To: Bobkk47
The only Latinos who should be upset at what happened last week should those who can't legally vote anyway. Latinos are not the problem. The problem is having roughly as many illegal immigrants as legal ones, and having most of the illegal ones come from a single country. The fact that a very high percentage of illegal immigrants take more in social services than their labor is worth is another HUGE issue.
23 posted on
07/01/2007 5:25:36 PM PDT by
sourcery
(Anthropogenic Global Warming: A convenient lie designed to establish socialism by fear and deception)
To: Bobkk47
Yes it was a trap! No imigrants marched in the streets to see it passed, but 100 million democraps and repub-I can’ts screamed bloody murder to kill something a Republican President and a libveral murdering senator wanted passed. Yeah Dick, nice trap! Idiot!
26 posted on
07/01/2007 5:31:37 PM PDT by
Bommer
(Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
To: Bobkk47
Screw the (de)merits of the bill, politics and politics only is all that matters, right DICK?
Dickie thinks out of the (shoe)box, but never out of the beltway.
29 posted on
07/01/2007 5:32:20 PM PDT by
JoeSixPack1
(Think not of today.)
To: Bobkk47
Did fifteen Democrats vote to kill the immigration bill to assure its defeat and guarantee that the Latino vote would go Democrat in the 2008 election? it does anyhow...that is a big part of this whole issue for many of us
30 posted on
07/01/2007 5:33:17 PM PDT by
wardaddy
(George Bush....I want my money back I gave you. Trent Lott...kiss my Mississippi peckerwood butt)
To: Bobkk47
Sounds like Morris has been drinking the Karl Rove Kool Aid regarding Latinos and amnesty. It is all B.S.
If Republicans have the courage of their convictions and speak from the heart about the unfairness to LEGAL immigrants of amnesty, welfare, tuition, and free medical care for ILLEGALS, then the LEGAL Latino voters will respond, as they did in Arizona, nearly HALF of them voting for a Proposition to deny illegals all of those benefits.
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