Now praying gets 7 Christians arrested

World Net Daily ^ | 7/7/2007 | Bob Unruh

[Delphinium]

6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.

You mean the way Daniel did in Daniel chapter 6, after the King signed the order not to pray to God?

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Hmmm- according to the article, the Christians in Elmira were sitting in a spot on the ground, quietly praying and bothering no one, which is their God-given, First Amendment right to do.

They were not, as the verse refers to, loudly and publicly braying prayers for the sole reason to attract attention to themselves and try to look righteous and sanctimonious.

There is a big difference between what the Christians were doing in the park and what that Scripture is talking about. You're not the first to try to use that Scripture to try to tell Christians they shouldn't pray publicly.

It won't fly.

[SoldierDad]

Remain steadfast in your faith in our Lord during these days of judgement. The time will come where those who practice evil will pay with their souls.

[Delphinium]

Loud praying to protest is really not something I am comfortable with, but I'd do it to prove I have the right.

God is Almighty whether we pray in secret, or aloud.

I know God directed Daniel to pray out loud for all to hear.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

Loud praying to protest is really not something I am comfortable with, but I'd do it to prove I have the right.

Me too. And since the Christians in the article weren't loudly engaging in "forcing their beliefs" on everyone who came to the park, unlike the homosexuals, it is absolutely certain that their rights were violated and denied them by the Elmira city government.

[Raycpa]

Would their actions bring Christ any closer to those they were protesting or those who were charged with protecting the protestors or even those that were observing?

Or were their actions designed to vent their anger and bring attention to themselves?

[Raycpa]

You mean the way Daniel did in Daniel chapter 6, after the King signed the order not to pray to God?

Were these folks honoring God by their actions?

[GiovannaNicoletta]

How would anybody know that? What does it matter? Maybe they were simply trying to be there to show Christ; to show that there is hope for redemption and to show that there is another way other than bondage to sin.

And maybe they felt led by God to go to the park and pray for those who are looking at spending eternity in hell.

Nobody knows and it doesn't matter. The fact is, they had the right to be there, they had the right to pray, they were not bothering anyone, and they were not, unlike the homosexuals, forcing their lifestyles and beliefs on anybody, (including parents with children) who happened to come into the park.

And they certainly were not doing what you attempted to imply with that Scripture you posted.

[Mad Dawgg]

"Hmmm- according to the article, the Christians in Elmira were sitting in a spot on the ground, quietly praying and bothering no one, which is their God-given, First Amendment right to do."

Even if they were quietly praying (and remember quiet is a relative term if however Silent prayer was used then we remove the sound level factor entirely) consider one can also "disrupt the peace" by obstructing traffic, both vehicular and pedestrian.

IF they placed themselves in an area that would have obstructed people moving about, then the police can and probably will remove them from the area and place them under arrest. It would make no matter if they were praying or singing campfire songs.

If however they had placed themselves near the affair but not obstructing traffic and were engaged in quiet/silent prayer then they have a case for the courts.

[Gene Eric]

>> Now praying gets 7 Christians arrested

I was expecting this story to involve a Middle East region.

[tutstar]

Baptist ping...

I just had the thought of the early abortion protesters and how the amount of homosexual event protesters is very small.

If the homosexual battle goes the way that the abortion battle did then we are in for long dark days!

[Raycpa]

They were not, as the verse refers to, loudly and publicly braying prayers for the sole reason to attract attention to themselves and try to look righteous and sanctimonious.

Then what is the lawsuit and the related publicity about?

[shield]

Oh My nothing more than the evildoers - devil - working to stop what’s ahead for him, the fallen angels, and unfortunately his human followers. HA HA...oh lucifer and co. days are coming to an end. They lose and Jesus Christ Followers WIN.... ;o)

[television is just wrong]

you must be muslim to pray then the ACLU will go out of its’ way to protect you.

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

“Our country has completely lost it’s moral compass.”

If it is our country, perhaps it is time to take it back.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

The article did not say that the Christians in Elmira, of whom I am referring, have filed suit. The publicity is about the fact that the government of the City of Elmira, New York, knowingly and deliberately, and without cause, denied the free speech rights of a group of tax-paying American citizens. The fact that this is just the latest example of a systematic and calculated nation-wide undertaking by cities and states across the nation to deny Christians their rights while going to great lengths to protect those of homosexuals.

Did you read the article?

[VOA]

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[Delphinium]

Were these folks honoring God by their actions?

Only God would be able to answer that. I think so, and I am sure God will honor their boldness.

I believe that those who dressed up like Indians, and threw the tea, (that did not belong to them) in the Boston Harbor were honoring God.

[Pete98]

How is it your call if they were honoring God or not? If the gays get to parade up and down the street carrying signs openly and loudly proclaiming their views, then the Christians should get to do the same thing, period.

If not, then the legal system is taking sides and supporting one view while silencing another. Of course that is EXACTLY what’s happening here.

[Delphinium]

If it is our country, perhaps it is time to take it back.

Hey, I'm with ya. My gr gr gr gr g ?? grandfathers helped dump tea too, and almost all fought for our freedom. Wish everyone knew their history.