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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Posted on 07/08/2007 7:11:32 AM PDT by Revtwo
PFEIFER ZELISKA REVOLVER Largest Revolver in the world. 28 mm Mr. Ryszard Tobys revolver, a copy of the Remington model 1859. Length 1260 mm. Guiness Record Award in 2005
Very elegant post devolve!! Nice graphics and I shall have to find out the text style as it’s great!
I don’t know but I’ll check with the guy tomorrow.
It's almost all in the barrel length isn't it? "Revolver barrels are measured differently than semi-auto barrels. In a revolver, they just measure the barrel itself (and ignore the cylinder and chamber). In a semi-auto they measure from the barrel crown to the breech face. Measured the same way, a S&W 940 2" has the same barrel length as a 3 3/4" semi auto....is usually a little bit slower (a bit less than 5%) from the barrel cylinder gap."
So to really compare apples to apples we would need to compare revolvers with semi's that are 1 3/4" longer than the revolver wouldn't we.
It appears from your numbers that the cylinder gap loses the equivalent of about 2 inches of barrel length. I would call that significant.
This was probably true in the early years of mass production handguns. Things like revolver forcing cones, double action and other technological advances have largely solved these issues.
I made that shot with a (IIRC) 240gr FMJ slug at approx 30 meters. Heavy brush in Washington State. Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 7.5 inch barrel. One shot right thru the shoulder/heart lungs. Dropped right where he took it. I always felt it was a nice easy (technically speaking) shot.
When I was a kid I used to shoot flying birds with my Ruger 22 semi (Mark IV ?, it has been a long time) at a hundred feet. I didn't know until I was older that I was supposed to shoot pheasants with a shotgun. (Before I get flamed, it was a remote area and I was always sure of the backdrop, Safety, Safety, Safety. Swinging the barrel of an empty gun past someone was cause to lose shooting privileges.)
My comparison was with longer barrel guns, rifles. I don't think that anyone will disagree that the barrel length makes all the difference. I am a reasonably good shot with a pistol but I wouldn't dream of trying to match a rifle at any range, for power or accuracy.
Check out Ol hogheads posts and my replies. Around post 83.
Something that I hadn't realized was that they don't measure the length of the chamber on a revolver, typically about 1 3/4 inches and they do measure the chamber on a semi.
So it appears that semi's have the same power as revolvers that are almost two inches longer. The difference can only be attributed to the loss of pressure in the gap.
Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? ...
Okay, i cannot resist the temptation to ask: Just how small does your penis have to be?
... or brought a rifle and/or shotgun.
I don't hunt. just doesn't interest me. But I understand the appeal of handgun hunting. But I wouldn't want to do ti without backup in the form of at least one other person and at least two other weapons. .
After watching way too much Mythbusters, I'd really love to take a lot of different calibers and loads to a range and try them out. Dumpster-dive behind the farmer's market for a truckload of melons -- doesn't matter if they're spoiled, because they're not for eatin'. There's also a ballistics gel recipe I found online and would love to try.
Anyone know where I can rent or borrow a 10,000-fps camera?
True or false: The best handgun in a given caliber is less powerful and accurate than the best rifle firing the same round.
A handgun is more powerful and accurate than a thrown rock,a thrown spear or an arrow, but they have inherent structural limitations, most notably the short barrel, that make them less powerful than a rifle.
It's relative; "not very powerful or accurate" doesn't mean I want one fired at me, or that I'd fire anyone or anything I don't intend to kill deader than Caesar.
Is that ammunition, or a marital aid?
That would depend on what you consider "edible meat."
Elk liver, elk sweetbreads, elk souse, elk chitlins, elk haggis ...
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Excellent point and of course the answer to the question posed is TRUE. I was taught that the true purpose of a handgun is to give you time to fight your way to a battle rifle. Having said that, I also know there are very few people who can shoot up to the capabilities of most brand name firearms, be they rifle or pistol. Centerfire or rimfire. I once had a First Sergeant who could score "X" hits on a bulls eye target with a 1911 45 at 75 meters. Could do it all day long. The hold over required is similar to your average mortar. What's the old saying? Beware the man with one gun....He likely knows how to use it!
It's just that in the original post I responded to, it seemed to me you were equating modern handguns with their 18th century ancestors. They really have come a long way since then. While a Walker 44 certainly will blow a bigger hole in flesh than a 9mm Glock, I don't think many folks will argue the Walker is preferred to the Glock for self defense by the masses.
The A-10’s gattling gun runs the length of the aircraft itself. I’m pretty sure it’s close to the largest if not.
Swiss Mini Gun
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
But:
The distance between cylinder and cone does vary, even within examples of the same gun. A wide gap is probably most problematic for the greater flash it creates in low light conditions & the crap that builds up because of it.
Smith and Wesson had a bad period quite awhile back. They fixed it but I've never owned an "L" frame since.
Historically, cylinder to barrel flash in the [loose-by-design] powder and ball Colts could be such that the unfired round in the next hole might go off along with the one you'd intended.
[That's an owie]
Any rational shooter will not only work on the cylinder timing (alignment to barrel when the hammer falls) but will have the forcing cone chamfered in order to ease passage of the bullet into the barrel. That improves accuracy, noise, flash, recoil, etc. & such.
Tip of the day:
Don't buy for cheap, invest in quality.
Should read
"Everything Tejeras Slim said"
But I agree with RW on the 30mm revolver anyway.
Watch the muzzle flash of a carbine versus rifle in same caliber. A Colt Officers Model versus standard full size [1911] Colt, or any short versus long barrel revolver in same caliber. Greater flash means powder still burning on exit - expending energy into the air rather than pushing the bullet.
But isn't the argument moot?
At the appropriate range, and for the purpose intended, each is "best" and "power" comes more from the bullet mass than from a couple of degrees of muzzle velocity.
[Meaning that you're probably gonna feel 'more hurt' by a .45ACP from a three inch barrel at ten feet than by a significantly faster .22 from a twenty-plus rifle barrel at same range...but you can't factor in a lucky shot or a stress induced miss.]
Know how, when you grow zucchinis, there is always one that hides under the leaves and turns into a monster? One year I grew Yellow Hybrids, and found this...thing..about two feet long.
We took it to the range, and I drew a target with a Magic Marker on its blossom end. My wife sent a Hydrashock up its ..umm..blossom end with her Sig226..the thing kind of unzipped and this pulp cloud sprayed all over the place, and left a little hollow skin on top of the barrell we had placed it on.
Squashes grew wild at the plinking range for a couple of years. No one picked them because of the lead, and the woodchucks got most of them.
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