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Immigration not problem of U.S. alone (Mexican El Presidente Smackdown!)
Whittier Daily News ^ | July 9, 2007

Posted on 07/09/2007 2:02:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

MEXICAN President Felipe Calderon is a lot like an uninvited dinner guest who arrives empty-handed and has the gall to complain about the food. When the immigration-reform bill collapsed last Thursday, he wasted no time criticizing the Senate's "grave error."

He warned that "by closing the door to legal immigration, the only thing the U.S. Senate is doing is opening the door to illegal immigration, which is precisely what Americans do not want."

Pass the potatoes, Mr. President, and kindly listen. Yes, Americans are sick of this problem, and many shared your desire to see the reforms pass. But the Senate isn't the one opening doors to illegal immigration. It's Mexico.

The U.S. government has spent decades trying to close those doors, only to be frustrated because Mexico refuses to do its part. Where were Mexico's police during the 1990s, when crowds regularly stood on the border firing shots or pelting the Border Patrol with rocks as officers attempted to stop nightly swarms of illegal migrants?

If Mexico had shown true cooperation and co-responsibility in fighting illegal immigration, the (border) wall would not have been necessary. Mexico could start by fixing what Calderon, as a candidate, described as the immigration problem's main cause: chronic underemployment and poverty. We welcome a realistic solution from Calderon that includes creating jobs in Mexico so its citizens will want to stay put.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; calderon; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 07/09/2007 2:02:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They do no want to stop it, illegal immigration is their way of handling their unemployment.


2 posted on 07/09/2007 2:12:12 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Hydroshock

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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3 posted on 07/09/2007 2:14:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Indianhead Division: Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mex is all about payoffs and Calderon maintains that premise. The only thing that will ever get Mex to even consider reigning in their nationals is a huge industrial influx that trumps any and all cash sent to Mex by their citizenry embedded here.

Or, IOW, blackmail.

We need consider neither option and simply enforce our immigration laws and seal our border. But our current politicians are greedy opportunists with payoffs in mind and seem unlikely to consider the country’s well being above their own.


4 posted on 07/09/2007 2:24:04 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Think not of today.)
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To: Hydroshock

When are they going to learn this is not our way of handling their unemployment.

Send them back and build the fence.


5 posted on 07/09/2007 2:29:05 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe Mexico should show it’s good faith by relaxing, or not enforcing, its own strict immigration laws, the exact thing they are demanding of us. Until they are willing to do that, they should just STFU.


6 posted on 07/09/2007 2:36:45 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Without the fence, deporting illegals is like shoveling water.)
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To: JoeSixPack1; Fresh Wind
The only thing that will get Mexico to even consider reigning in their nationals is a huge industrial influx that trumps any and all cash sent to Mex by their citizenry embedded here................ Maybe Mexico should show it’s good faith by relaxing, or not enforcing, its own strict immigration laws, the exact thing they are demanding of us. Until they are willing to do that, they should just STFU.

An important point to ponder-----not only did we, the people, slaughter the amnesty atrocity, BUT we also beat back the Mexican government (which was heavily invested in amnesty).

WE hold the winning cards, so we get to decide the rules of the game. WE DEMAND that Mexico stop aiding and abetting the invasion..........or else.

It's an outrage that US citizens are socked with the costs of subsidizing illegal Mexico's citizens, and are forced to put-up a multi-billion dollar fence, and hire law enforcement to keep these invaders off our land.

We get all the grief AND the bills---Mexico gets off scot-free. That has to end.

Keep in mind that the US (that's us, the taxpayers) provides the nuclear defense umbrella to protect Mexico, so that Mexico has no real defense expenses. We need to let Mexico know that we will cut off every penny in US aid unless they do something about border security.

Mexico can well-afford it. Mexico is a wealthy oil-producing neighbor and has eleven "Forbes" billionaires, more than all but eight other nations. Mexico has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires. It's telecommunications king---Carlos Slim has displaced Bill Gates as the world's richest man.

According to a CNN report, Mexico sits on oil reserves worth about $400 billion, but Mexico's state-owned oil company, Pemex, doesn't have the investment funds to tap those reserves, and Mexico's Congress refuses to allow foreign investment in Pemex. Some observers say this is due to Mexican gov't corruption, and the obsession to line their own pockets.

Adding insult to injury American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico from its lettuce pickers and hamburger flippers here. The percentage corrupt Mexican politicans are getting from this $30-40 billion bundle must be considerable (or else it would be stopped). America should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- 50%, say -- on every unexplained foreign remittance.

The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be pitching in to protect the borders (AND taking care of its own people, not "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers).

7 posted on 07/09/2007 2:49:11 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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" You say illegal aliens are setting fire to forests and fields along the border to
distract U.S. Border Patrol Agents to make their crossing easier, and throwing
Molotov cocktails at US agents’ vehicles, and setting fire to their observation posts? "

"I'm the Homeland Security Chief. What do you want me to do about it? "

8 posted on 07/09/2007 2:50:21 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Hydroshock
They do no want to stop it, illegal immigration is their way of handling their unemployment.

Actually, the South American countries that have gone Communist all have the defining characteristic of a large under class of citizens. That is citizens who are incapable of assimilating into even their third world societies.

Just like the illegal Mexicans that flood across our boarders, they are uneducated - they may speak Spanish (or some dialect sounding like Spanish) - but they do not read and write Spanish. The environment that they came from does not understand living in a society that is based upon laws. They lived by "rule of force" previously. If you can't keep them from taking your property from you, that's your problem.

The Los Angeles gangs are a accurate representation of their societies.

The Europeans controlling Mexico are exporting their revolution to us. Hopefully, Chavez's 500 AK47s won't make their way to these people, because they are the seed army for our eventual Communist take over.

9 posted on 07/09/2007 2:53:33 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: Liz

This pencil-necked geek Chertoff should have his worthless ass sitting in a federal prison somewhere. He wants to treat Americans like prison inmates at the airport, and he has his TSA goons harassing American citizens at the airport over trivial matters, and yet, at the same time, he leaves our Southern border wide open to illegal aliens and terrorists. Resign, Chertoff!


10 posted on 07/09/2007 2:58:28 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Forget the fence....Build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.)
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To: Hydroshock
They do no want to stop it, illegal immigration is their way of handling their unemployment.

Not to mention it's also cheaper than building jails...
11 posted on 07/09/2007 2:58:35 AM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: Hydroshock

absolutely correct.....this turd world banana republic sends all of the underclass to the USA to relieve itself of the social ill problems...they let the USA taxpayers fund their problems...

and jorge bush/fat ted/all the lib/dems/no cajones republicans...are complicit with the mexican govt.

and as for US national security....the worthless chertoff needs to go and the US needs someone..anyone with a plan and the will to actually do their job and stop the illegal invading hordes!!!!


12 posted on 07/09/2007 3:08:55 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I do remember that a lot of people were excited when Chertoff was appointed, “$#!+ is going to get done, now”. Unfortunately, they were right. What has happened is very precisely, and nothing but, $#!+.


13 posted on 07/09/2007 3:12:28 AM PDT by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Liz

It appears we have been successfully sidetracked from discussion and demand that our Federal Government perform their priority focus of Border protection to a discussion of Mexico’s responsibilities involving border security.

Border security is the U.S. Federal Government’s job one, Mexico be damned.

Now we have to focus even more attention writing, phoning, faxing, emailing our demand for border control as the finger has been turned to point more emphatically at Mexico now than at the current WH where the finger needs to be pointing.

We have to be constantly on the alert for such distractions. Changing the topic to alter focus of discussion/action is an old one, tried but true.


14 posted on 07/09/2007 4:20:09 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: JoeSixPack1

Seal the border... shoot to kill anyone that trys to violate that border!

LLS


15 posted on 07/09/2007 4:30:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If we build the fence and stop the illegals then he'll actually have to do something to fix Mexico's problems (or at least talk about it).

As things stand today, he doesn't need to do anything. The US is the safety valve on the Mexican pressure cooker.

16 posted on 07/09/2007 5:00:59 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Liz
Your post is important and needs repeating on many threads...

Most folks (sheeples) buy the hype that Mexico is a poor country with few resources...

...Carlos Slim's name & amount of wealth, imo, should be bandied at every opportunity and the facts you stated need to be well known.

No doubt many Mexicans come here illegally to get away from crime, poor wages and bad living conditions...

..but Mexico could/should clean up their own country and they have the finances to do it....

..they just don't want to.

17 posted on 07/09/2007 5:01:58 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: rockinqsranch

I think we need to focus on both.


18 posted on 07/09/2007 5:05:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: Liz

Your post is excellent...I am outraged that the Mexicans have such good representation on Capitol Hill!


19 posted on 07/09/2007 5:09:03 AM PDT by mo
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To: JoeSixPack1

A 15% “transfer fee” on the total amount of the nmoney being wired for all Western Union (whomever) money wires etc., that could not show legal residence. Maybe that would be one good way to help things along?


20 posted on 07/09/2007 5:29:33 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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