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Deniers of global warming harm us (Global warming deniers bigger danger than holocaust deniers!!!)
Seattle-PI ^ | 7/10/2006 | Joel Connelly

Posted on 07/11/2007 6:07:51 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican

AS THE WORLD'S scientists near consensus on human causes of climate change, even Exxon is cutting contributions and distancing itself from the global warming denial industry.

The deniers haven't conceded defeat, and lately have found a substitute for the "sound science" they once demanded. Their new tactic is the drive-by shooting.

The objective is distraction, to be achieved by demeaning the oracles, particularly the "Goreacle," of global warming.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; algoreisnotmypope; globalwarming; globalwarmingscare; ivorytower; junkscience; neomccarthyism; orwelliannightmare; thoughtcrime; zogbyism
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

We should use their approach when it comes to non-believers of God.


41 posted on 07/11/2007 7:08:49 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Now....ENFORCE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAWS!!!)
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To: massgopguy

Two points
1 IF the earth is warming? Sounds to me like you’re one of those who’ve been bought out by (cue the ominious music) Big oil, Big tobacco, Big leggo, and all the other evil giant multi-national corp. that want to enslave us.
To find out what’s really going on I recommend you go to
www.crazy as a loon. org.
2 With global warming happening the entire world will look like the Gobi dessert all the cute furry animal will die a horrible lingering death, there will be no more baby seals for us to admire and love.
To stop this there’s only one thing to do...start running around in circles waving our arms and shouting loudly GLOBAL WARMING GLOBAL WARMING.


42 posted on 07/11/2007 7:11:10 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

I have decided not to get excited about these idiots. When we have record cold in Scranton, PA in June, snow in July in Argentina, record cold in South Africa and Australia, I think they will get it when the iceberg finally hits their ship.


43 posted on 07/11/2007 7:25:24 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: weegee

See my profile, point #2.


44 posted on 07/11/2007 8:05:39 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
AS THE WORLD'S scientists near consensus on human causes of climate change

I thought they ALREADY had consensus. Now we are denying something that is not concluded?

I like how they have backed off their certainty a bit while at the same time smacking those who are not conceding.

45 posted on 07/11/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: kevkrom; Proud_USA_Republican; honolulugal; SierraWasp; AuntB; Carry_Okie; GladesGuru; ...
As a new and radical religion, it's only natural that they brand disbelievers and skeptics as "infidels" or "heretics". They may use different terms, but that's what, in essence, they are doing.

You're almost there. Enlightenment Awaits.

Here's a clue:
Anthropogenic. Caused by Humans.
Earth's population, 6.5 Billion Humans, plus Mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, birds, insects.. Wild and domesticated.

Solution:
Eliminate about 4 Billion humans.
I figure we're all on the list.
Well, except those in the service industries.
Someones got to serve veggie burgers to the elite surviving inheritors of the Earth.

46 posted on 07/11/2007 8:32:14 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: finnsheep
When we have record cold in Scranton, PA in June, snow in July in Argentina, record cold in South Africa and Australia, I think they will get it when the iceberg finally hits their ship.

Why would a snow in July be a thing of special note in Argentina?

47 posted on 07/11/2007 8:43:03 AM PDT by thulldud ("Para inglÚs, oprima el dos.")
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To: Drammach
Eliminate about 4 Billion humans.

The UN estimates between 4 and 5.5 depending upon the lifestyle. The Global Biodiversity Assessment, concludes:

“...an agricultural world, in which most human beings are peasants, should be able to support 5 to 7 billion people...a reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be one billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2-3 billion would be possible.”

The current global population is approximately 6 billion. The trend of growth rate is declining and may turn negative this century. Estimates of carrying capacity range from 1 to 40 billion people, depending upon whom you ask, but perhaps the statement is more revealing than it would at first seem.

That’s how many people it will support, the way they intend to run it.

They won't have enough people left to take care of the planet.

48 posted on 07/11/2007 8:44:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

“Who could have forecast a 2-degree rise in Antarctica’s temperature in just 35 years?”

The only other place I read this claim was on the Sierra Club website from a 1997 article:

“Another major contributor to ocean mass could be the antarctic ice shelves, which are deteriorating at a rapid rate; two huge chunks, each the size of Rhode Island, have fallen off in the past two years. The mean temperature in Antarctica has risen by 2 degrees since 1950, and the enormous Larsen B ice shelf is riven with cracks, leading some scientists to predict its demise within two years.”

Guys like this writer must keep files on all this stuff forever.


49 posted on 07/11/2007 8:51:29 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: rabscuttle385
And what if nothing happens?

That will be proclaimed as proof that the people who invested in carbon offsets saved the planet.

50 posted on 07/11/2007 8:54:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Without the fence, deporting illegals is like shoveling water.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
So far, however, change has proceeded at a faster pace than even pessimistic scientists predicted a few years ago.

You often see such flawed "logic" put forward by proponents of the humans-caused-the-global-warming scam, but in fact such observations pull the rug out from under their main argument. They have put all of their faith into dire predictions made by scientists, because the scientists' models and predictions portend a dire future.

When they say that climate change is proceeding even faster than even pessimistic scientists predicted a few years ago, they want us to conclude that therefore the situation should be treated with even more urgency than before.

However, a much more rational and intelligent way to interpret such "even greater than predicted" statements is to realize that they reveal the inconvenient truth that those scientists who made the original predictions have proven beyond a doubt the worthlessness of their own predictive powers.

The essence of real science is observing and analyzing a phenomenon, making hypotheses that may explain why the phenomenon occurs, and then devising tests or experiments that can generate unambiguous evidence that either supports or does not support those hypotheses. If the result of an experiment is "the result was much greater than we predicted", that is not a validation of the prediction. Rather, it is the opposite - it reveals that whatever mechanism may have been driving the results, that mechanism is not at all well understood by the person who made the prediction. It shows that the predictor's model or hypothisis is wrong, not that it is right...

Yet know-nothings like the author of this article would have us take the results of failed predictions as an urgent impetus to immediate action.

51 posted on 07/11/2007 9:00:45 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Carry_Okie

A single kingdom; who will be king?


52 posted on 07/11/2007 9:05:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: concerned about politics

Do they count the temperatures for the fires themselves into their “average” temperature? It wouldn’t surprise me.

Paul


53 posted on 07/11/2007 9:38:27 AM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: finnsheep

Ummmm..... Finn...... I hate to mention this little fact, but Argentina, South Africa and Australia are all in the southern hemisphere, thus it’s winter there.

It’s supposed to be cold in July there.

Paul


54 posted on 07/11/2007 9:40:44 AM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: Old Professer
A single kingdom; who will be king?

It is written, but first we'll get The Prince. ;-)

55 posted on 07/11/2007 11:14:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Issaquahking

You speak the unmitigated TRUTH, oh great King of the Issaquah nation!!!


56 posted on 07/11/2007 11:23:36 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: weegee
"Al Gore’s film is being shown in schools as “required” viewing without rebuttal."

THAT's a VIOLATION of CHURCH & STATE, right THERE!!! (call the cops!!!)

57 posted on 07/11/2007 11:33:16 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: Valin
"throught"

Would you mind defining this strange word for my aging mind??? (grin)

58 posted on 07/11/2007 11:41:50 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Our local deniers need only look around ... at the shrinking South Cascades Glacier and Chikamin Glacier in the Glacier Peak Wilderness, or the rapidly receding glacial tongues of Canada's Columbia Icefield -- a vital water source for the Columbia and other great North American rivers.

Or go to the Begich, Boggs Visitor Center outside of Anchorage, built to give visitors vistas of the Portage Glacier. The glacier has retreated so far that it can no longer be seen.

Funny how they never notice the glaciers that are growing.

Of course, National Geographic says that many glaciers are growing because of global warming.

How conveeeeenient.

59 posted on 07/11/2007 11:55:44 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: SierraWasp

Thanks for coming out Walt! Couldn’t help but take a good shot at those that needed it...and pinging those in the know!


60 posted on 07/11/2007 6:54:20 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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