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Collapse of Big Dig Ceiling in Boston Is Tied to Glue
The New York Times ^ | July 11, 2007 | MATTHEW L. WALD

Posted on 07/11/2007 9:00:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: finnigan2

It’s not surprising the project has been going on so long, given it’s scope, which I am sure you don’t have the cognitive capacity to understand.

Also, the scope of the job grew dramatically over what was orginally budgeted for. Given the very limited geotechnical investigation, they learned that a majority of the work was to be conducted on reviously unknown marine clay layer that was so sft and weak that if you set a full cup of coffee on this clay, a half hour later it would have sunk into the clay. Yeah, that led to some major overruns, requiring geotchnical improvements that were basically new technologies to the USA. But what the hell, let’s just call that corruption, huh?

Yeah, there were 2 construction deaths that I know of, and the one person killed by the falling tunnel section. As for the safety record, the Big Dig had the best safety record of any major construction project.

To say the project is unsafe to use is a lie, and displays your vast welath of ignorance only further. Clearly, you have cheery picked the worst the media has fed you, and you refuse to learn enough to intelligently discuss the project. in the same vain, I’m sure you think the entire Iraq war is a quagmire and we should just give up now, if you use the same lack of thinking skills and merely rely on what the MSM feeds you.

The arrests were of 2 sleazeballs selling inferior concrete. Geez, like ANY project doesn’t get it’s share o sleazeballs. he reason the material was found to be deficient was because a diligent contractor did his own testing, above 7 beyond what was required in the contract.

The tunnel leaks are the result of crappy design, as i the reason for the falling ceiling panel that killed the woman. You want to blame anyone, blame designers, but us contractors did a great job on competetively contracted projects, with a 5 to 7% margin typically. You see if you can get any construction project built for that kind of margin, I’m POSITIVE you won’t. Not that you’d even know wtf I am talking about, you’ll still try to display your pure ignorance and continue to bash the country’s largest ever construction project.

Don’t be stupid, don’t just follow and parrot the MSM lies. Be smart, and use some critical thinking skills, or you’ll only continue look as stupid as you do with your current set of replies.


81 posted on 07/16/2007 5:39:28 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger
but us contractors did a great job on competetively contracted projects

Yeah, it's only leaking 2 Million gallons a month instead of the 5 million it would have been without your stellar job. Good Work!

82 posted on 07/16/2007 6:07:47 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

Do you know where & why it’s leaking, and if the contractors followed the design? Do you even know who is responsible, while blaming contractors?

Nope! I didn’t think so. Just more ignorant bashing, and parroting the MSM story without any critical thought.


83 posted on 07/16/2007 6:10:46 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger

You’re right. It’s not the contractor’s fault that their works leak 45 gallons a minute.


84 posted on 07/16/2007 6:21:32 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

All tunnels leak, it’s an inevitability. Do you know how much leakage was designed into it?

Do you know why it’s leaking? Do you even know what part of it’s leaking?

I do! I know the guys who buult it. They were competitors of mine, and I worked on the project on a contract right next to the one that is leaking near downtown. I saw the design they HAD to follow, even though they questioned the poor design. That design SUCKED! Thank God the section designers worked with were intellignet (or pliant enough) to allow us t use the industry standard practice, not their crappy design.

The guys who built that section are the second best in the world at what they do, and had they been able to follow standard industry practice, that section would be fine, even though it’s almost 100’ below sea level.

Have you ever built that type of stuff nearly 100’ below sea level?


85 posted on 07/16/2007 6:31:45 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Professional Engineer

Thought of you when I read this...

BTW, I was in Austin this past weekend and went by the Barton Creek Square...


86 posted on 07/16/2007 6:40:20 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (http://kimsbug.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2Jedismom; Peanut Gallery

I was just in Austin today.

My boss did a burn out in the rental car on the Congress Ave bridge over Town Lake. No bats roused. ;-(


87 posted on 07/17/2007 7:52:30 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Speak softly and leave a giant carbon footprint! Oh, go burn the trash while you're at it.)
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