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Factoring Fred: When the [Giuliani] Base Cracks
World Magazine ^ | July 21, 2007 | Jamie Dean

Posted on 07/13/2007 7:00:49 AM PDT by hardback

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1 posted on 07/13/2007 7:00:50 AM PDT by hardback
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Giuliani grapples with how to win over conservatives who oppose his support of legalized abortion and civil unions for homosexual couples.

New York liberal. Hey he might make a good mayor?

2 posted on 07/13/2007 7:07:27 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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The lead that Giuliani has held for months among Republicans, Land says, comes down to electability: Voters see him as the man who could beat Democratic contender Hillary Clinton.

This puts Giuliani's poll numbers in perspective. GOP'ers (among others) continue to support him simply because he's been billed as the 'only' one who can beat Clinton. That's been a straw dog all along, and people are beginning to wise up to it.

3 posted on 07/13/2007 7:09:04 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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Fred’s tied nationally with Hillary at 45% and that’s great news. Hopefully the state polls break down about the same way


4 posted on 07/13/2007 7:11:11 AM PDT by hardback
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Hillary has too many negatives. That’s shown by how many other Democrat candidates there are, if nothing else. Judging by her husband’s popularity (still) within Democrat circles, she should be the shoe-in for the nomination. she isn’t. And too many voter ‘blocks’ are lining up against her: Men, a large percentage of women, the ultra-far left, etc. Her candidacy is a house of cards.


5 posted on 07/13/2007 7:19:41 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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And too many voter ‘blocks’ are lining up against her:

Vacant lots and the ranks of the dead are still behind her 100%

6 posted on 07/13/2007 7:22:50 AM PDT by agere_contra
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Giuliani grapples with how to win over conservatives...

No real conservative would vote for Giuliani.

7 posted on 07/13/2007 7:24:20 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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Vacant lots and the ranks of the dead are still behind her 100%

Don't forget the illegals.

8 posted on 07/13/2007 7:35:27 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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I’m guessing Hillary/Bill are praying for a 3rd party candidate to muddy the waters like Perot in 1992. That seems to be the only situation where they can win


9 posted on 07/13/2007 7:38:40 AM PDT by hardback
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I’d put LIeberman on the ticket with Fred!


10 posted on 07/13/2007 7:45:20 AM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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That will probably be Bloomberg. Makes you wonder if that wasn’t the plan all along, doesn’t it?


11 posted on 07/13/2007 7:49:30 AM PDT by Newfy
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How about a Ron Paul/Joe Lieberman ticket or vice versa? I think that would be a winner.


12 posted on 07/13/2007 7:50:35 AM PDT by Newfy
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13 posted on 07/13/2007 7:51:53 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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Fred’s tied nationally with Hillary at 45% and that’s great news. Hopefully the state polls break down about the same way

I haven't seen any "general election" head-to-head state results. I will say that in the latest Rasmussen, only Thompson ties or beats Clinton nationally on the GOP side.

So much for all of the "only Rudy can beat Hillary" hype.

14 posted on 07/13/2007 7:53:54 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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Not after he voted for the amnesty bill.


15 posted on 07/13/2007 7:53:58 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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Well, we have Bloomberg, but he’ll draw more from the Democrats. And there’s just an outside chance that McCain could take his campaign outside the GOP. But that’s a real long shot IMHO. If he can’t raise the cash now, how could he expect going Independent would help?


16 posted on 07/13/2007 7:56:04 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Newfy
How about a Ron Paul/Joe Lieberman ticket or vice versa? I think that would be a winner.

Hay Jim this man wins funny post of the day! :)

17 posted on 07/13/2007 7:58:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Politicalmom
According to Richard Land, two words sum up Fred Thompson's burgeoning appeal to Republican voters: "Fred meat."
I see FRed People!!
18 posted on 07/13/2007 8:46:14 AM PDT by FlashBack (WoundedWarriorProject.Org)
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Do you think Giuliani could win Queens and Brooklyn if he were the nominee? I don’t. He might get a third in Manhattan though.


19 posted on 07/13/2007 11:40:31 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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When McCain drops out, by 2-1 the McCain voters will jump to Giuliani.


20 posted on 07/13/2007 12:15:24 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton's plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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