Posted on 07/13/2007 6:51:57 PM PDT by blam
With all the canned and packaged food from little 2nd and 3rd world countries on the shelves of many of our stores now I'm afraid it's just a matter of time until we have a major outbreak of serious food poisoning. I checked the country of origin of some of the canned and packaged meats, fish, fruit, cookies, crackers, snacks, etc in a Dollar Tree store recently and was surprised to see that much of it came from China and other places in the orient. Other regions were also well represented, including some that I don't normally think of as food exporters such as Turkey, Columbia, El Salvador, Nigeria, and Tunisia.
You have to wonder what kind of food purity inspection systems they have in some of those countries where bribing government officials to look the other way is the normal way that business is conducted.
The Cadbury bunny: Dead, all four paws up in the air, “bawk”ing one last time with its final breath before a horrendous salmonella infection liquefies its insides.
Rent a costume dude, that would make an awesome performance art piece! You could get a government grant!
Do you trust China and Mexico when it comes to food safety ?
That's what the politicians were saying when they were ramming NAFTA down our throats , yet they still poured in here after NAFTA was passed . Working tax free and having U.S. social benefits to lean on, outweighs any jobs that we send down there .
Dear Lord,
Please protect Mary See's wonderful confections...especially Bordeaux.
No private company wants to be sued and they do want to produce good products so they sell them and have repeat customers and more customers.
So are you for government telling a private company where they can set up shop or how to produce things etc? Why are you for government imposing your views on the rest of us. If I owned a company I would set up production where I want to and I don't want the government telling me where I can start my businesses or where I can work. What you seem to be suggestin is is against freedom and so seems un-American in my opinion. this country was based on freedom.
buyer beware. do your own research on the Internet on companies , ingredients, products. Solve your own problems and don't wait for the government to solve your problems for you. You like many others seem to trust government politicians and bureaucrats who are evil, corrupt, cretins who are unaccountable to anyone to run these industries. That didn't work too well in the USSR, Cuba, Cambodia etc.
I bought millions of pieces of food in my life and never had a problem. multiply that by 300 million people in the U.S.A and then you can see the reliability of these companies. The liberal media blames these companies because some idiot wanting attention says he got sick or wants to hip the law suit lottery.
Socialism has never worked anywhere it has been tried, the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, the killing Fields of Cambodia etc. . This is one reason why government idiots can never be as good as private industry:
socialism /collectivism doesn't work
F. A. Hayek had a remarkable career pointing out the flaws in collectivism. One of his keenest insights was that, paradoxically, any collectivist system necessarily depends on one individual (or small group) to make key social and economic decisions. In contrast, a system based on individualism takes advantage of the aggregate, or 'collective,' information of the whole society; through his actions each participant contributes his own particular, if incomplete, knowledge—information that could never be tapped by the individual at the head of a collectivist state.
No private company wants to be sued and they do want to produce good products so they sell them and have repeat customers and more customers.
So are you for government telling a private company where they can set up shop or how to produce things etc? Why are you for government imposing your views on the rest of us. If I owned a company I would set up production where I want to and I don't want the government telling me where I can start my businesses or where I can work. What you seem to be suggesting is against freedom and so seems un-American in my opinion. This country was based on freedom.
Buyer beware. Do your own research on the Internet on companies , ingredients, products. Solve your own problems and don't wait for the government to solve your problems for you. You like many others seem to trust government politicians and bureaucrats who are evil, corrupt, cretins who are unaccountable to anyone. Many seem to trust these government brown shirts to run these industries or "keep us safe" which is ridiculous because I wouldn't trust these government idiots to do anything even if they did try. That didn't work too well in the USSR, Cuba, Cambodia etc.
I bought millions of pieces of food in my life and never had a problem. multiply that by 300 million people in the U.S.A and then you can see the reliability of these companies. The liberal media blames these companies because some idiot wanting attention says he got sick or wants to hip the law suit lottery.
Socialism has never worked anywhere it has been tried, the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, the killing Fields of Cambodia etc. . This is one reason why government idiots can never be as good as private industry:
socialism /collectivism doesn't work
F. A. Hayek had a remarkable career pointing out the flaws in collectivism. One of his keenest insights was that, paradoxically, any collectivist system necessarily depends on one individual (or small group) to make key social and economic decisions. In contrast, a system based on individualism takes advantage of the aggregate, or 'collective,' information of the whole society; through his actions each participant contributes his own particular, if incomplete, knowledge—information that could never be tapped by the individual at the head of a collectivist state.
That Hershey plant in Mexico will spur economic development and make a whole town in Mexico. That is one less town that would move here to the U.S.A and that is great.
And if other plants move down there then the effect multiplies. At least those working in the Hershey plant in Mexico won’t be in the U.S.A and that is great news to me.
That is very good candy. Alas.
Private companies in China, what a concept? Talking about private companies in China sounds like Bill Clinton talking. I will never forget while as President Clinton took exception to someone referring to China as either Communist China or Red China. I do not remember if that was before or after it was made public on this forum at least, that Clinton had illegally taken political contributions from the Commies. My dream would be that we could export something to Communist China like trial lawyers, and they could sue the pants or whatever the fashion is in China off companies who send us products which are inferior and possibly dangerous. But the companies do not have big enough pockets to suit our trial lawyers who like John Edwards have become very very rich oversuing. The facts are that companies in China and the US do not compete on level playing fields. Companies in America are oversued and that is one of many significant reasons why jobs leave our county. But the facts are, that American companies are being oversued because they are private and have big pockets, and Chinese companies will hardly ever be sued because they are not all that private and do not have big pockets. American companies have to pay for software licenses on ALL their computers, I just wonder if Chinese companies do? As a conservative I believe in private enterprise and free market, when it comes to China those things are merely words of propaganda exported to suckers like the United States, oops I meant trading partners like the US, I apologize to all the NWO boys for my slip of the tongue.
Your first point is correct that private companies don’t want to be sued. The problem is that many importers are at the same disadvantage as the American consumer , we just don’t know what are in some of these products and it’s impossible to find out .
You say buyer beware . I agree with that and always check for Country of Origin . It doesn’t do a bit of good with many food products that consist of many ingredients , many of which are imported from China and Mexico . That was the case with the pet food debacle .
It appears that many staple grain products are coming from China as well . It’s impossible to know if these grains are being used in many common food products , so the buyer beware argument doesn’t really hold up .
There is also a movement underway to do away with Country of Origin labelling on all products, which is a very unnerving prospect . Global “free trade” is great !
Are you comfortable with that ?
Ummm... Yummy Chinese buns ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289081,00.html
Shoulda hired bouncers.
Exporting U.S. jobs to Mexico won’t make any noticable difference in the amount of illegals crossing the border.
NAFTA did not reduce the amount of illegals . If anything , exporting our jobs to Mexico probably makes more of them want to come here , knowing that we pay much more and that they can work income tax free .
The question is whether one trusts companies in China or Mexico to the same degree as in the U.S. Any educated person would answer no.
Your idealogy is good and I agree with it. But one mustn't allow idealogy to blind one from simnple comparative analysis.
And to address your question: Yes I am for the FDA regulating food safety.
There are many Wal-Marts in China.
The Chinese figured out what many here in the U.S. have not that socialism doesn’t work. The Chinese are now authoritarian capitalists not communists as communists are Marxists who don’t allow private property. Read the communist manifesto by karl Marx .
You trust evil,corrupt,politicians (the government) to keep you safe. You trust the unaccountable. I trust private companies who are accountable because they have to sell quality products to be successful. But most of all I trust myself and I don’t wait for the government to solve my problems for me I solve my own problems. Liberals do wait for the government to solve their problems for them.
Tut tut, one would think that yellow teeth would quickly kill the worst salmonella. The problem is the Brits brush their teeth too often, not yellow enough.
What has government done efficiently? did you read and understand the Hayek statement in my post?Go into a Best buy or Walmart and you'll see that private companies are thousands of times more efficient,more accurate, more productive than government
you are willing to give up more of your freedom,money, to the government all because the liberal media engages in fear mongering?
You don’t see that your kind of thinking is what is leading this government to grow in power and size?
No company wants to get sued.
Every company wants to produce quality so that their sales increase or don’t fall.
The FDA cannot do a better job at quality control than private companies even if these goons tried.did you read and understand the Hayek statement in my post?
but you give up my freedom to have government impose your beliefs on the rest of us who don’t trust government. that is against freedom. You trust government to do a better job than private industry. I don't.
Somehow, I do not think we will find Walmart or any other of those companies fingerprints on toothpaste with anti-freeze or defective tires.
You trust evil,corrupt,politicians (the government) to keep you safe. You trust the unaccountable.The Godfather is as insightful as popular American popular culture has to offer. The core image was that Don Corelone had all the judges and politicians tied up like puppets on a string. Well the Mafia is not what is was, and corporate America nows owns much of what Don Corleone purportly owned. If the most recent debate on Amnesty showed us anything, it did show us who was owned by whom and who was dancing on a string, and just like in the Don's day, the government reflects the will of those who buy it, not those that elect it.
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