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Scientists invent device to stop Global Warming
Next Energy News ^ | July 16, 2007

Posted on 07/16/2007 6:59:23 PM PDT by Thalos

Chemists at the University of California, San Diego have created a device that uses sunlight to transform harmful CO2 gas into fuel that could replace all the gasoline used in transportation.

Clifford Kubiak, professor of chemistry and biochemistry and Aaron Sathrum have developed a prototype device that can capture energy from the sun, convert it to electrical energy and “split” carbon dioxide into carbon monoxide (CO) and oxygen.

The amazing process produces CO (carbon monoxide) which can be processed by bacterial fermentation to produce ethanol, and massive amounts industrial chemicals used to produce plastics. By splitting CO2 you can save fuel, produce useful chemicals and eliminate global warming greenhouse gases.

The device designed by Kubiak and Sathrum to split carbon dioxide utilizes a semiconductor and two thin layers of catalysts. It splits carbon dioxide to generate carbon monoxide and oxygen in a three-step process. The first step is the capture of solar energy photons by the semiconductor. The second step is the conversion of optical energy into electrical energy by the semiconductor. The third step is the deployment of electrical energy to the catalysts. The catalysts convert carbon dioxide to carbon monoxide on one side of the device and to oxygen on the other side.

The US uses about 400 million gallon of gasoline a day and produces about 50 million tons of CO2. The goal now is to scale this process up to replace that amount of gasoline and convert most of the manmade CO2 gases in the US.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; ucsd
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It has no description of how economic it is, but suppose they can scale it up large enough to let us "recycle" all of our CO2. Wow.
1 posted on 07/16/2007 6:59:25 PM PDT by Thalos
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To: Thalos

Let’s see here. We rid this world’s air of harmful CO2 and replace it with beneficial carbon monoxide. This can only be proposed from a California school.


2 posted on 07/16/2007 7:03:21 PM PDT by chopperman
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To: Thalos

We’re Saved!!!


3 posted on 07/16/2007 7:05:07 PM PDT by danneskjold
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To: Thalos

What are they doing with the carbon monoxide again?


4 posted on 07/16/2007 7:05:14 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: chopperman

I think the article says it captures the CO and makes fuel from it.


5 posted on 07/16/2007 7:05:35 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Thalos

Another way to do the same thing is to use microbes to convert the light energy through photosynthesis to covalent bonds in sugars, then convert the sugars (fixed carbon which comes from CO2) to diesel.

The only thing we have to do is buy diesel vehicles.


6 posted on 07/16/2007 7:05:45 PM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: chopperman
Let’s see here. We rid this world’s air of harmful CO2 and replace it with beneficial carbon monoxide. This can only be proposed from a California school.
Hilarious!

Seriously, they also claim it is possible to turn CO into more useful carbon molecules.
7 posted on 07/16/2007 7:06:33 PM PDT by Thalos
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To: Thalos

What are the trees suppose to do?


8 posted on 07/16/2007 7:07:07 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Thalos

I guarantee - without any doubt or question - that no matter how carbon emissions or global warming are “solved”, IT WILL NOT SATISFY THE ECO-NAZIS.

They will instantly find something else to moan about. They will continue to make all the same demands they are making now: that we change our lives, pay more taxes, and obey their stupid policies.


9 posted on 07/16/2007 7:08:21 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Thalos

Plus, we get the additional benefit of less anthropogenic CO2 since the carbon monoxide should kill most of the Earth’s inhabitants.


10 posted on 07/16/2007 7:08:55 PM PDT by bw17
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To: Thalos

Algore needs to lead by example... he should mount one of these puppies on the roof of his house.


11 posted on 07/16/2007 7:09:06 PM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: kinoxi
What are they doing with the carbon monoxide again?

If this were to fly, it wouldn't matter because we'd all be dead.

12 posted on 07/16/2007 7:09:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: edcoil
"What are the trees suppose to do?"

Dang! Beat me by THIS much...

13 posted on 07/16/2007 7:09:17 PM PDT by redhead (Victory first; then peace)
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To: danneskjold
We’re Saved!!!

Assuming, of course, that we were in trouble from this in the first place.

14 posted on 07/16/2007 7:09:40 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: edcoil

Trees? They can just go suck on sticks.


15 posted on 07/16/2007 7:09:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Thalos

Kubiak and Sathrum need to watch their backs if their idea is good and not public enough to survive them.

Its interesting that cars’ catalytic converters convert CO into CO2.


16 posted on 07/16/2007 7:10:09 PM PDT by H.Akston (Conservatives are frugal with the public's resources.)
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To: edcoil
What are the trees suppose to do?

Dude, trees are like so last decade...
17 posted on 07/16/2007 7:10:28 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Thalos

..but but but, Algore will lose money with his carbon credit company

18 posted on 07/16/2007 7:11:45 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: SteveMcKing

You’re right. If this did work, it would put a big crimp in the UN’s wealth transfer scheme—which is what Global Warming really is. Look for the inventors to be discredited and maybe conveniently disappear.


19 posted on 07/16/2007 7:11:45 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Thalos

Nothing new. Google “Producer gas” and see what turns up.


20 posted on 07/16/2007 7:11:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Thalos
It doesn't matter. The environmentalists will never let one be built.

-PJ

21 posted on 07/16/2007 7:12:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: chopperman

Correction: in highly reactive beneficial carbon monoxide, that will become CO2 minutes after by swallowing its share of O2. From a California school, indeed.


22 posted on 07/16/2007 7:13:15 PM PDT by Codename - Ron Benjamin (I'm gonna sing the doom song now. Pre-emptive, multi-tasking, interrupt control!)
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To: redhead
me too - I was going to say .... They invented a ... (drum-roll) ... "PLANT"

But in response to another post - yes .. the eco freaks will go crazy saying we're robbing flora of their food !!!!

23 posted on 07/16/2007 7:13:18 PM PDT by dougd
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To: Thalos

One of these days we’ll be “recycling” all our CO2 so well that we won’t have any CO2 in the atmosphere at all. Huzzah!

Of course, no one mentions the fact that... plants need CO2 to photosynthesize, or that CO2 contributes roughly 12% of the greenhouse effect and that completely removing it from the atmosphere would likely dump us into a very severe ice age.

But what do I know.


24 posted on 07/16/2007 7:13:30 PM PDT by TheZMan (Texas is no place for pansy-ass liberals. Ya'll move back to California er Mexico er somethin')
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To: Thalos
The amazing process produces CO (carbon monoxide) which can be processed by bacterial fermentation to produce ethanol, and massive amounts industrial chemicals used to produce plastics. By splitting CO2 you can save fuel, produce useful chemicals and eliminate global warming greenhouse gases.

What no apple pie and ice cream???

25 posted on 07/16/2007 7:16:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Thalos

This from a different and a bit more detailed article. Read the other article.

“Because their device is not yet optimized, they still need to input additional energy for the process to work. However, they hope that their results, which they presented at last month’s meeting of the American Chemical Society, will draw attention to the promise of the approach.”
http://www.physorg.com/news96107693.html

I hope it works out though. If it does, I wonder theory the left will think up to replace global warming to cripple the US economy.


26 posted on 07/16/2007 7:17:05 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Thalos

Since CO2 is dispersed in the atmosphere at a concentration of about .05%, gotta wonder how they plan to catch hold of the stuff. Maybe butterfly nets.


27 posted on 07/16/2007 7:18:43 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: Thalos
Why don't we convert the surplus CO2 into 7-Up and Coca-Cola? Then we could just drink all the Global Warming.
28 posted on 07/16/2007 7:19:45 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: Thalos

Recipe for End of Global Warming Crisis

Material List
1 Wooden Armchair
2 Rolls of Ducttape
1 Pair of Scissors
1 Bottle of Dom Perignon
1 Champagne Flute

Procedure
1. Secure Al Gore to Wooden Armchair with Roll #1 of Ducttape - cut tape with Scissors;
2. Secure Al Gore’s mouth with Roll #2 of Ducttape - cut tape with Scissors;
3. Open Bottle of Dom Perignon and fill Champagne Flute;
4. Celebrate end of Global Warming crisis. Imbibe generously. Smile.


29 posted on 07/16/2007 7:19:46 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: H.Akston
catalytic converters convert CO into CO2

wow - even better - we now have perpetual motion (well - needing sunlight of course - but close)

Now - we can all get rich rich rich by converting FR into PETP (or is it PETF ?) and get lots of gubmint grants to protest this inhumane killing and maiming of plants starved of their natural CO2 by our cruel conversion of it into a poison and oxygen for our own greedy benefit.

30 posted on 07/16/2007 7:20:07 PM PDT by dougd
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To: Thalos
Let me see: CO2 is one of the essential gasses for the survival of this planet, we need it for plants to thrive and produce oxygen. CO is a deadly gas that will kill humans pretty quickly as anyone who has ever seen someone inhale car exhaust to commit suicide can attest. So, in their infinite wisdom these idiots are going to get rid of CO2, the good gas, and replace it with CO, the bad gas. Can't wait for that to happen./SAR.

We have truely become a planet full of idiots.

31 posted on 07/16/2007 7:20:28 PM PDT by calex59
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To: edcoil
What are the trees suppose to do?

Furniture?

32 posted on 07/16/2007 7:20:56 PM PDT by Thalos
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To: Thalos
You can't stop global warming by reducing (or even eliminating) carbon dioxide emissions--because global warming is caused by the Sun, and not by carbon dioxide: Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide

Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


33 posted on 07/16/2007 7:21:42 PM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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To: Thalos

34 posted on 07/16/2007 7:24:11 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: kinoxi
Well, it sounds like they're going to take 350-400 ppm of atmospheric CO2 and replace it with 350-400 ppm of CO.

Problem solved. No more global warming...or humans to worry about it.

35 posted on 07/16/2007 7:25:26 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Thalos
A device to prevent Global Warmingtm?

I was thinking more along the lines of a really big sock whith shich to ram down Algore's throat.

And I'll have my pockets filled of bars of soap to throw at any of his stinky hippie friends that try to stop me...

36 posted on 07/16/2007 7:25:54 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: dougd

We are robbing the flora of its food and energy.

Transferring the sun’s heat energy into electrical power for example should be permitted on one condition:

That the energy be used for the electrical needs of all the animal and plant kingdom.

Wide-screen televisions, iPods and electrical toothbrushes will then serve at the pleasure of leopards, badgers, dung beetles and the spotted owl.


37 posted on 07/16/2007 7:26:19 PM PDT by Stallone (War with Iran - While Bush is President and Troops are Present.)
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To: Delacon; xcamel
Because their device is not yet optimized, they still need to input additional energy for the process to work.

Oh.

Ya needs MORE energy (to make the CO2 into CO) than what ya get from da sunlight falling on da (incredibly expensive) solar panels (which only generate usable power from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM local every day anyway) .... So ya need to burn (some kind of mythical fuel) to convert (useful) CO2 into (poisonous) CO....

38 posted on 07/16/2007 7:26:37 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Thalos

montgomery burns had the right idea


39 posted on 07/16/2007 7:27:02 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (Dog Kills Cat, Self)
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To: Thalos
Scientists invent device to stop Global Warming

Cool.

40 posted on 07/16/2007 7:27:13 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Thalos

later read.


41 posted on 07/16/2007 7:27:39 PM PDT by The Mayor ( A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.—Proverbs 16:9)
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catalytic converters convert CO into CO2

I know - I am always amazed that the question never arises "What if in our attempt to 'cure' global warming we actually bring on the next ice age?"

(not that we could anyway - but assuming the false premise that we can do anything to control global climate ..)

It seems to me that human history of trying to "fix" nature almost inevitably results in a cure worse than the disease because we really don't have much of a clue about how it all works.

42 posted on 07/16/2007 7:29:04 PM PDT by dougd
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To: tickmeister

Now now. These guys are on the right track. Anti-global warming guys like myself have often said that any anthropagenic CO2 that MAY be a contributing factor to global warming will be solved by science and the market place. NOT goverment regulation.


43 posted on 07/16/2007 7:29:09 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Thalos
I have two very technical scientific questions about this

1. Do these guys have a permit to make this non-gas?

2. Are they paying road taxes on each potential gallon they to test with?

44 posted on 07/16/2007 7:29:55 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Thalos

The problem is how to you trap and contain the CO2? I’m guessing this is the part they left out on purpose. The devil is in the details.


45 posted on 07/16/2007 7:31:46 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't do either, run for office)
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To: Thalos

Ummmmmmmmmmmm............

Don’t trees already take in carbon dioxide and release oxygen?

Ummmmmmmmmmmm............

it’s a proven scientific fact that more carbon dioxide will make plants/trees grow bigger (ie process more carbon dioxide, give off more oxygen).

I think this device might be better if they could build one that turns CO2 into carbon and oxygen (ie a carbon scrubber). This would be great for enclosed spaces to recycle the air and remove carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. But it seems idiotic for trying to save the planet.

Note to scientists: WE HAVE TREES AND PLANTS THAT LOVE CO2!!!!!!

I think this will be as effective as having a bunch of liberals petition volcanoes to stop belching out more bad gases than we can all year that they can in one day.


46 posted on 07/16/2007 7:32:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: HoosierHawk

Pesky little sapient buggers...


47 posted on 07/16/2007 7:34:42 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Read the article I linked to. It states that they used a silicon based semiconductor that doesn’t provide enough power. Next they are going to try a gallium-phosphide semiconductor which should produce better results. No mention of whether or not they will have to still add non sunlight energy to the mix then. Hey, if Orville and Wilber had as many nay sayers on their first 10 second flight at Kittyhawke we’d still be blimping it around the world. :)


48 posted on 07/16/2007 7:35:32 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Stallone
“3. Open Bottle of Dom Perignon and fill Champagne Flute;
4. Celebrate end of Global Warming crisis. Imbibe generously. Smile.”

You left out a step - where do you shove the empty Dom P. bottle? ;)

49 posted on 07/16/2007 7:35:37 PM PDT by decal (Sign over DNC headquarters: Please Check Common Sense And Morals At The Door)
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To: Secret Agent Man
but ... but ... but...

If we get algore behind this - and have him do the next live earth concert from within the room where all this wonderfully "safe from global warming" CO is being produced - we really might fix the problem - dontcha see.

50 posted on 07/16/2007 7:36:23 PM PDT by dougd
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