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House: All first responders can unionize [The bill, passed 314-97........]
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Posted on 07/17/2007 1:15:39 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Those Dems sure love those Union Dues/Campaign Contributions
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:18:25 PM PDT
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: Sub-Driver
Where’s their leverage if they can’t strike?
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:20:52 PM PDT
by
JZelle
To: darkwing104
Ninety-eight Republicans voted for the bill.
Yep, those damned rats. Blackbird.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:22:08 PM PDT
by
BlackbirdSST
(I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
To: Sub-Driver
Union membership is very low except for Government employees. The unions are desperate to increase their membership and the Dims are desperate to give them as much help as possible.
At least unionizing Government workers doesn't make our industry noncompetitive.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:22:23 PM PDT
by
Ben Mugged
(Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
To: Sub-Driver
In California, state and local public unions make large campaign contributions to the same politicans who set their salaries and benefits. As a result, most public employees have lavish salary, benefit and retirement packages that private sector workers can only dream about. To add insult to injury, the public unions are constantly whining about being underpaid. They get away with it since most folks don’t have any clue how well-paid (some would say over-paid) these folks are.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:22:47 PM PDT
by
jrp
To: JZelle
Blue Flu. You all call in sick togther.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:23:20 PM PDT
by
Hydroshock
(Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
To: JZelle
They can get Federal arbitrators to help them negotiate, for one thing, and once they get a contract it will be damn near impossible to fire any of them. IMHO, it’s very dangerous to our civil liberties when cops can’t be fired. The whole thing is an affront to Federalism anyway. Who the hell are they to tell states whether or not their public servants can unionize?
To: Sub-Driver
if this one flies, it won’t be long until “first responder” means lifeguards, crossing guards, anyone at all in health care, rubble haulers, newscasters, fast-food security guards, security camera operators, and a jillion more I can’t think of right now.....
To: BlackbirdSST
"Let's not mince words," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn. "This bill is not concerned with public safety. It's a payoff from the left to the powerful labor unions that finance many of their campaigns." Ninety-eight Republicans voted for the bill.
We need a list of those Rinos.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:28:56 PM PDT
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: darkwing104; pissant
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:38:51 PM PDT
by
Ultra Sonic 007
(Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
To: BlackbirdSST; Ben Mugged
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:40:15 PM PDT
by
Ultra Sonic 007
(Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Thanks.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:40:46 PM PDT
by
darkwing104
(Let's get dangerous)
To: Sub-Driver
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:43:12 PM PDT
by
Shots
(If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
To: JZelle
They can quit or choose not to join in the first place.
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posted on
07/17/2007 1:48:39 PM PDT
by
mthom
To: Sub-Driver
Anyone want to enlighten me about what in the US Constitution gives the federal government the authority to regulate this?
I know it is silly to expect our federal government to abide by the restrictions set forth in the constitution, but do they even make an attempt to justify such things?
To: Sub-Driver
The House on Tuesday voted to give all police, firefighters and other first responders the right to collective bargaining, although the legislation also would keep them from going on strike.
The bill, passed 314-97, gives public safety officers the right to join unions and bargain over wages, hours and conditions of employment.
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why government employees are allowed to unionize?
Unions have been manipulated by both sides to create a situation where the workers really don't have to work, they really don't have to fear getting fired, and the Union officals TAKE dues and give it to the Liberals. And in the end, Liberals have created another slow-working monstrosity.
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posted on
07/17/2007 2:13:01 PM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
To: Sub-Driver
Its more than two thirds. Republicans voted for it out of fear of being depicted as "anti-cop", "anti-fireman" and "anti-paramedic."
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
07/17/2007 2:18:10 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: lesser_satan
IMHO, its very dangerous to our civil liberties when cops cant be fired.
***Hmm, good point.
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posted on
07/17/2007 2:30:30 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(We should withdraw from Iraq -- via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
To: Kerretarded
I would say “freedom of assosciation” weighs in, but of course, it should not require any additional law to be passed if you are making a constitional appeal.
IMHO, it is not constitutional to legislatively intervene either way. You can’t tell the labor force they can’t form unions, and you can’t tell the hiring agencies that they can’t fire anyone who join a union.
(But you could definitely pass laws against ‘striking’ in respect to interstate commerce.)
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