Laura Ingraham is Hammering Johnny Sutton

[pgkdan]

She’s trying to make this an immigration issue which it is not.

Yes it is. This case was a not too subtle way of letting border agents know what will happen to them if they actually try to do their jobs and enforce American laws at the border. Alberto Gonzales told them to back off and I'm a bunch of them have.

[NYleatherneck]

If Sutton is telling the truth, he filed a false report of the incident, destroyed evidence, and then lied about the whole thing to investigators. If they had simply reported the incident as it happened, nothing would have happened to them.

It is a matter of character and integrity, and these agents show little of either in this case.

JMO...

[Perdogg]

And Johnny Sutton is an agent of the CFR-Trilaterial comission-CISEN, right?

[pgkdan]

Wow..what a rhetorical masterstroke! I’m too bedazzled to respond.

[dmz]

I don’t quarrel with you at all, sam. I was only expressing the way the world appears (at least to me) to actually work, as opposed to what ‘should’ be the case.

[Iwo Jima]

Well, Sutton is not telling the truth, but you're not listening closely to what he is saying. RAMOS filed NO report, false or otherwise, he is not even accused of destroying any evidence, and never spoke to investigators about the issue.

You say "they," when I specifically asked about Ramos. Ramos did none of the things that Compean did or was accused of doing.

[Spiff]

If Sutton is telling the truth, he filed a false report of the incident, destroyed evidence, and then lied about the whole thing to investigators. If they had simply reported the incident as it happened, nothing would have happened to them.

Fine. So convict them of that and give them an appropriate sentence. My understanding is that they were convicted of using a firearm in the commission of a crime which elevated their sentences past to at least 10 years. Did they actually use a firearm in the commission of filing a false report, etc.? This firearm thing was unprecedented and does not apply to law enforcement in the execution of their duties. Sutton tacked it on to get the most blood from these guys.

Now, what of Sutton's vicious prosecution of the guy who "violated the civil rights" of an illegal alien by pushing him down with his boot? That border patrol agent got 2 YEARS in prison because of Sutton.

And there are other similar cases. Sutton's agenda is obvious and it is criminal.

[Iwo Jima]

The ballistics is very relevant. The stipulation was ill advised (i.e., stupid, lazy, or both). In a new trial the defense would not so stipulate.

The stipulation probably happened because the prosecution lied and said that the ballistics report proved that the bullet came from Ramos's gun. That doesn't excuse the bad lawyering, but it does happen that way far too often.

If Sutton prosecuted a case knowing that ballistics showed that drug dealer was not shot by the agents but likely by his drug lords, that is VERY relevant to this issue, regardless of having slipped the wool over the defense counsel's eyes. It is grounds for dismissal and disbarrment for Sutton and Kanof.

[samtheman]

I stand corrected. Thanks for the excellent explanation.

[samtheman]

I know. I hope it didn’t seem like I was arguing with you. I was arguing with the Johnny Nifong Suttons of the world.

[samtheman]

This firearm thing was unprecedented and does not apply to law enforcement in the execution of their duties. Sutton tacked it on to get the most blood from these guys. Now, what of Sutton's vicious prosecution of the guy who "violated the civil rights" of an illegal alien by pushing him down with his boot? That border patrol agent got 2 YEARS in prison because of Sutton. And there are other similar cases. Sutton's agenda is obvious and it is criminal.

Yup.

[Iwo Jima]

You’re very welcome.

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

Folks are accusing Sutton of misconduct, but a West Texas jury (from a population unlikely to have a bunch of bleeding heart libs) found these agents guilty. The agents had competent counsel. There are mandatory minimum sentences for federal offenses because Congress, responding to us, got tough on crime. The case is up on appeal. If the District Court or the US Attorny made an error, the Fifth Circuit Ct of Appeals, a very conservative court, will overturn their convictions.

I hate it when talk show hosts, who advocate the findings of juries and despise activist judges, bash the verdicts of juries, who are the best position to evaluate the facts, when the juries find law enforcement guilty.

Those who were not at the trial or on the jury are really in no position to comment on this case.

[NYleatherneck]

Well said.

[lesser_satan]

Johnny SLUTton is beyond redemption. He should just put a pistol in his mouth and pull the trigger. That’s the only way for him to salvage any honor or dignity whatsoever.

[GATOR NAVY]

The desire to handcuff the border agents so that they will not enforce the law is why Sutton Bush prosecuted these agents.

[Iwo Jima]

You're not from Texas, are you?

El Paso cannot really be considered to be part of Texas. It is more correctly considered to be part of Mexico. I doubt that anyone connected to border enforcement can get a fair trial in El Paso.

Please change your screen name. It is a slander against Texas.

[Iwo Jima]

No, not well said. Very poorly said. See my post #57.

[Finny]

1) These guys do not deserve to be in Jail

I've been trying to read-up on this case. John Zeigler of KFI is one of the few conservative-bent talk show guys who's leery of letting anger make fools and liars of people. Anger against immigration is separate from anger against cops who shoot the backs of unarmed people who are fleeing to legal sanctuary a rock's throw away.

Cops who do that are the same kinds of cops who'd take citizens' guns away during something like Katrina.

They belong in jail.

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

These agents subjected themselves to a jury trial. The jury had access to alot more evidence than you or I. I give alot more deference to a jury than public opinion or the ranting of any talk show host. If the judge, prosecutor or jury made a mistake, the appelate court will correct it.

You explain this verdict by slamming a jury and making an attack on me. Pretty pathetic.