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Chicago: Local churches preparing for gun drive
ABC7-TV (Chicago, IL) ^ | 7/20/07 | Ravi Baichwal

Posted on 07/21/2007 9:51:30 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

It is the third such gun-drive that has been put on by the Chicago Police Department's community-based policing section. With a financial incentive and if history is any guide, expect a lot of people to be present at Chicago-area churches Saturday no matter what's being offered for them.

Vance Henry is the civilian head of CAPS, the Chicago alternative policing strategy, and the last time a call for guns to be turned in was made, the police were awash in over 3000 firearms. This will be the third CAPS-sponsored gun drive. Chicago police and community and church leaders are setting up shop at 23 houses of faith to receive the weapons. Depositors will receive a $100 MasterCard gift card in return for each gun with no questions asked. Henry said last time some folks refused to take the money.

"Our aim tomorrow is to get guns off the street," said Henry. "The public has embraced this and it is just a community-based way for the public to work with and support the police dept in an effort to make our neighborhoods."

The temporary depots will be set up in neighborhoods that have seen their share of violence. Reverend Jesse Jackson and former Destiny's Child singer Michelle Williams publicized the event this morning on WGCI, which shunned spinning records for a discussion on what it will take to get guns off Chicago streets

At the People's Church of the Harvest in the east Garfield neighborhood they're preparing for an emotional day. They've seen how people in their neighborhood who take this step are doing something close to spiritual

"The return of one gun means that an individual has decided that I will no longer participate in the downgrading or the degrading of my community," said Carolyn Anderson of the People's Church of the Harvest.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
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1 posted on 07/21/2007 9:51:33 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

More feel good liberalism.

I got an old air pistol that’s broke.
Can I get a $C-note?

What a scam.


2 posted on 07/21/2007 9:54:45 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: kiriath_jearim
Cool, I’ll bring in 4 crappy, old guns, and get me a fine new gat.
3 posted on 07/21/2007 9:54:58 AM PDT by giobruno
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To: ChiMark

>>More feel good liberalism.

I got an old air pistol that’s broke.
Can I get a $C-note?

What a scam.<<

I was hopeful at first. I thought maybe the churches will subsidizing quality home defense weapons for their parishioners.. sad but not true...


4 posted on 07/21/2007 9:56:22 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Depositors will receive a $100 MasterCard gift card in return for each gun with no questions asked.

What an excellent way to get rid of "hot" guns. No records and they get melted down.

5 posted on 07/21/2007 9:57:13 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: kiriath_jearim

It amazes me that these people actually believe this is an effective way of combating violence.

“The return of one gun means that an individual has decided that I will no longer participate in the downgrading or the degrading of my community,”

Another ineffective, liberal, feel-good program that will have no impact on crime. Heaven help us if a Democrat gets elected in ‘08.


6 posted on 07/21/2007 9:57:25 AM PDT by Radio_Silence
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To: Paleo Conservative

>>What an excellent way to get rid of “hot” guns. No records and they get melted down.<<

I think its called aiding and abetting after the fact.


7 posted on 07/21/2007 10:00:11 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: kiriath_jearim
They ought'a give out a free badge to those who participate. Just one word:

SUCKA!

8 posted on 07/21/2007 10:00:43 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Paleo Conservative
I think I'll alert the local ATF office about this so they can have some of their goons down there checking to see that the appropriate 4473's are being filled out.

After all, these folks are engaged in the business of buying firearms. I wonder if the Churches FFL is up to date.

L

9 posted on 07/21/2007 10:03:08 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: gondramB

“I was hopeful at first. I thought maybe the churches will subsidizing quality home defense weapons for their parishioners.. sad but not true...”

I know, I thought maybe they were arming their people!


10 posted on 07/21/2007 10:03:21 AM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

In my city, they had a drive like this. a relative of mine said that everyone dropping off a gun a secretly photographed and the guns were checked to see if they were stolen and tested.
Also,I have heard rumors that war prizes were taken by officers in some depts. But then again, that is a rumor. I hated to see the TV reports of people dropping off Lugars and P38 or a colt 45....


11 posted on 07/21/2007 10:03:59 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: kiriath_jearim

Damn! At first, I had hoped that maybe the churches would be holding a raffle for some nice guns... But if I lived in the area, you can bet that I’d be trying to find any used Jennings pocket pistols to turn in for $100 gift cards!

Mark


12 posted on 07/21/2007 10:05:15 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You found the crimial’s loop hole. No questions asked.

Chicago does’nt prosecute criminals. We don’t mind felons on
the street but we don’t want guns on the street.
More murders per capita than in Iraq.
We need a timeline or an exit strategy on this gun turn in.


13 posted on 07/21/2007 10:07:48 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Radio_Silence

Like you, I’m surprised that anyone thinks that the gun buy-back program will decrease crime.

I live near Chicago, and, in that city, it’s illegal for anyone, other than police officers and city council members, to own guns. During four of the last five years, Chicago had more murders than New York and L.A., although those other cities have more people than Chicago. Gang members buy guns in suburbs and take them to Chicago, knowing that the law-abiding people can’t shoot back and defend themselves.


14 posted on 07/21/2007 10:08:24 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Paleo Conservative
What an excellent way to get rid of "hot" guns. No records and they get melted down.

That's probably the reason so many people turned down the money. The gift cards might be traceable to the person when cashed imo.

15 posted on 07/21/2007 10:23:23 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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That's probably the reason so many people turned down the money. The gift cards might be traceable to the person when cashed imo.

You mean the city government would lie and keep records of "anonymously" turned in weapons?

16 posted on 07/21/2007 10:32:42 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: PhilCollins
it’s illegal for anyone, other than police officers and city council members, to own guns

Remember Dorothy "The Hat" Tillman waving her .38 around on TV a few years back? Talk about scary...

L

17 posted on 07/21/2007 10:36:57 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
You mean the city government would lie and keep records of "anonymously" turned in weapons?

I guess it would depend on the current meaning of "anonymously". It's hard to keep up nowadays as simple words such as "people" are so ambiguous. :>)

18 posted on 07/21/2007 10:51:02 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Yorlik803

I suspect any decent gun goes home with a cop.


19 posted on 07/21/2007 10:55:19 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Lurker
These church's are in violation of federal law the requires them to be licensed to “engage in the business” of firearms transactions.

GET of your lazy ATF asses and do your jobs !

20 posted on 07/21/2007 11:23:39 AM PDT by Weeedley
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