No Charges for Hurricane Katrina Doctor Accused of Murdering Patients

LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/25/07 | John Jalsevac

[ken21]

no one in louisiana is culpable,

or for a matter of fact,

responsible for anything.

/s

[hophead]

“psychos”

What is this, Daily Kos? Because some of us disagree with you and IJ we are “psychos”. I guess I was wrong to believe that this site was a proper place for “intelligent” discourse. Name calling for legitimate difference of opinion is the MO of the leftards, not this site.

[hophead]

“It would never have even occurred to me to kill the patient so that I could go home.”

Is THAT what she did? Or are you just throwing that out there?

[Mamzelle]

I'll answer your stupid question.

The slipperly slope is knowledge vs. intent. Every day, hundreds of terminally ill undergo pain management that everyone knows will hasten death. The purpose --intent-- is not to hasten, but to provide comfort, But the effect is still hastening.

People aren't answering you because they suspect you'll claim "knowledge" is "intent." And it's not.

Pain is a bad thing. Federal agencies are right now harassing hospitals because they do not treat pain aggressively. Hospital policies are forever having to swing back and forth between the accusation of "pusher" and "not caring enough about pain." One day the licensing guys are showing up "people are hurting" and the DEA says the next day "you're giving drugs to drug-seekers. Knock it off or we'll hassle you."

Nothing I've read even suggests to me that murder is going on. But anyone who knows about the dangers of long-term pain management for the suffering knows that aggressive management will hasten death.

SO wagglebee. Is knowledge intent?

The drips were probably not working due to the conditions. Likely the personnel had to administer by hand what they were used to administering by programmed technology.

Just remember--the spite you show to pain-mangement today may be policy tomorrow that you don't like very much.

It says everything to me that they stuck around. I'll bet the lawyers high-tailed it before they even checked their answering machines.

[Iwo Jima]

Yes, if the doctor said to me "I'm leaving. You're on your own. Do you want me to kill you before I go?" I would say "no, don't kill me. Maybe some other person will help me, maybe not, but I prefer not to be murdered."

You say there was no hope of being saved. That's just not true. These people would have been rescued pretty soon. Heat? Humidity? You're puliing my leg, right? You would actually kill someone so that they would not get hot and sticky and smell bad?

Yes, I believe that this doctor WANTED these people to die. She wanted to not have to stay with them but her duties required her to stay UNTIL THEY DIED. SO, she killed them.

Not ambulatory? I hate to break it to you, but non-ambulatory people have the right not to be killed, too. Some may have not been able to give consent, but some undoubtedly were. Was consent even sought from anyone? I doubt it, and what does that tell you. For people unable to consent, consent is implied for life saving care. Consent to be killed is never implied. This is not a hospice where people go knowing that they will die and prepared to die.

[Mamzelle]

Deep hatred here for medical professionals...and keep in mind, it was a number of nurses accused as well.

[Mamzelle]

All that I saw suggested that leaving was impossible under any circumstances.

[Iwo Jima]

Then want was the intent? To have the patient die? Did anyone ask the patients what THEY wanted?

I'm sure that if this doctor had announced "I'm about to kill some patients unless someone comes to rescue them," there would have been an immediate rescue. No one came to help these people because no one knew what peril they were in at this doctor's hands. That she never made her intentions known tells you that she knew that what she was doing was wrong.

[P-40]

All that I saw suggested that leaving was impossible under any circumstances.

They could have been removed by the television crews that oddly enough could travel about the city from Day Uno.

[P-40]

Then want was the intent? To have the patient die?

Where did you get that from?

But yes, their dire circumstances were known for days. If someone really wanted to, and did not mind footing the medical bills, it would have been a small matter to remove them to a better location.

[Mamzelle]

These hospitals...which, granted, NOLA is not known for having very good ones...were isolated for days. Water up the staircases. These are battle conditions.

So the family members' lawyers who fled the city are now suing the doctor/nurses that stayed?

[hophead]

WOW! You say “Yes, I believe that this doctor WANTED these people to die.
All I can say is I hope you never sit on my jury if I ever need one.
“she killed them.” Ok Karnack. It is nice to know there IS someone out there who KNOWS ALL and SEES ALL. I ask for your foresight in the multiple missing person cases in my state. What do you see and where is the mother of 2 who went missing 2 years ago?
Who said “walk a mile in my shoes” before you make judgment?

[Iwo Jima]

What do you think that she did? That’s what her defenders are saying. That she needed to get home and see about her family and these patients were what was keeping her there. They were bad off anyway, so just give them lethal doses, they die, we go home and everybody’s happy. What’s not to like?

[P-40]

According to the Mayor himself, which corresponds with the video he provided on the day of the storm, he had no shortage of rescue boats in the water as soon as the winds dropped below 50mph. Annoying conditions, not battle ones.

[hophead]

Like I said, it seems YOU and ONLY you know what was in this doctors heart. I am glad that the grand jury disagreed with you.

[Iwo Jima]

pain management that everyone knows will hasten death. The purpose --intent-- is not to hasten, but to provide comfort, But the effect is still hastening.

Does the patient know and consent to this, or is this a dirty little secret that we can't let the patient in on because they just might queer the whole deal by refusing to agree to die?

[festus]

He ducked this court but there’s another court to be reckoned with. He’ll face his judgement.

[hophead]

IJ, you make so many assumptions it is is scary. Were YOU on the grand jury? Do you have information nobody else is privy to? Let us know if you do.

[Mamzelle]

If the patients are in pain and asking for meds, they'd likely get the meds. Particularly in sweltering NO heat with buildings no longer designed for natural ventilation, poor sanitation, panicky situation, no light in the darkness. How lucid the patients were, how able to consent, I do not know. Most health professionals under those circumstances would get the patient out of pain, first.

Maybe a legal professional would just let them scream. And enjoy the sound.

I've googled up her CV. Though NOLA, she has quite a nice resume and sterling work history. Looks like an excellent and formidable witness. I think that little ratface of a prosecutor blew his big moment.

[Iwo Jima]

I just go by what the doctor's defenders are saying. That's damning enough.

But you tell me what YOU think happened.