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Millionaire’s wife ‘forced to abort baby girls’
London Time ^ | 7/28/07 | Jeremy Page

Posted on 07/28/2007 12:34:40 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: George from New England

GE Medical manufacturers their ultra sound equipment in India for world wide distribution. Demand in India is very strong.
This report should come of no surprise..it happens less with the educated upper class, but still happens.
It is also happening in China.


41 posted on 07/28/2007 3:45:51 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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42 posted on 07/28/2007 4:07:09 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
4 Abortions per 1,000.

Wow! Ain’t we a shining beacon to the world?

43 posted on 07/28/2007 4:25:17 PM PDT by Barnacle (The Emperor has no clothes.)
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To: Mrs.Z
Margaret Sanger, feminists legacy:

“Women, children, and minorities hardest hit”.

LOL

Man, that is beautiful irony. (Not to diminish the tragic truth of that reality.)

44 posted on 07/28/2007 4:29:16 PM PDT by Barnacle (The Emperor has no clothes.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

The problem with your chart is it shows abortions per number of parents. What would be more informative would be abortions per live births. Sure germany shows a very low abortion rate, but that is because they have a very low birth rate. No one is getting pregnant in germany.

Even so it is still interesting however. Thanks for posting it.


45 posted on 07/28/2007 4:29:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: wagglebee

Good for her. I hope she wins.


46 posted on 07/28/2007 4:30:20 PM PDT by Silly (McDonalds. I'm lovin' it.)
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To: river rat

Hey why do you confuse a number of issues with this local issue of India ?

Multi-culturalism does add a color to the society, as long as that culture is non-imposing and civilized.

If a few Buddhist monks want to pray for world peace in their own small corner of a small shopping mall, how do they threaten your culture ? What you gonna do, shoot them dead or behead them like the Islamist militants to show how much you hate their culture ?

And anyway what kind of cultural imposition are Indians subjecting on Americans ? Are Indians living in USA forcing Americans to abort their babies ? How is this local issue of India an issue of forced multi-culturalism on USA ? Does it make you feel better to insult every non-white culture of this planet as being inferior to your culture willingly knowing that 70% of this planet is non-white ?

You talk about abortion and I too strongly oppose it, but do you know that when black babies are put up for adoption they are not adopted even by Americans ? Infact, Germans adopt more black American babies than white Americans themselves.

So, should I stereotype white American culture as nothing but beer guzzling, “negro” hating, white trash hillbilly types who loudly proclaim they are pro-life but dont want to adopt “niggerbabies” due to their racist mentality that even foreigners are willing to ?

I agree with the basic premise of multi-culturalism - that all civilized cultures need to be respected and people shouldnt be harassed based on their culture - but not its forced implementation. Hating someone just because they dont follow your way of life is not a good way to fight forced multi-culturalism. If they are following some cannibalistic cult or some self-destructive religion, they will eventually die down due to their own policies. Just like the OSHO movement. Only decent philosophies can co-exist with one another and ultimately derive followers from foreign cultures as well. Hating other civilized cultures is meaningless and only prohibits assimilation of well meaning minorities.

And finally, there are bad apples everywhere, but you cannot judge all Indians based on these people alone. Judging Indian culture by the issue of female foeticide is like judging American culture by your diseased filth of KKK and white supremacy.


47 posted on 07/28/2007 5:19:11 PM PDT by design engineer
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To: Logophile

Hey Planed Parenthood, There’s a gold mine in India just waiting for you to open your murder for money sewer.


48 posted on 07/28/2007 7:23:05 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: silver charm

It’s also compounded in Muslim societies where men with money take multiple wives leaving poor men frustrated and cut off and, therefore, ripe for jihad since that’s the path to martyrdom and its promises of multiple virgins in paradise.


49 posted on 07/28/2007 7:33:00 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: design engineer

You need to get back on your meds.....

I don’t belong to the KKK, nor do I wish the death of anyone other than those who have defined themselves as my mortal enemy....

If other folks love their culture too much to adopt to our way of life and laws when they come to America — they should stay home.

I am among that group of American families, whose ancestors and current families have sacrificed much to make America the country it has become - and among those families with relatives still buried in foreign soil — killed to free those people. Many of them use that freedom to criticize us or work against us... That is becoming more than tiresome.

You try to make it a white vs non-white issue.
It is not that at all.
I served with more that the appropriate number of black, Hispanic, Asian and mixed heritage Marines during my career — it is not a racial or ethnic issue — it is an AMERICAN issue of anger at Johnny come lately Third Worlders coming to America to partake of the opportunities yielded from the labor of others, while contributing little other than their bitching or criticism..

Some of us are more that disturbed by the level of accommodation asked of us to show the proper respect for “religious cults” or “cultures” that many of us view as barbaric, uncivilized and inappropriate to practice in America.. A person’s freedom to practice their religion - extends to and stops on the legal side of OUR laws - and does not interfere with my rights, freedom or pursuit of happiness.
If anyone can’t deal with that reality — then frankly I don’t give a damn...
They can kiss my hairy white ass....

Your criticism of White Americans for failure to adopt all the illegitimate black babies is really an amateurish and uninformed grasp of reality... Most especially since >70% of all black children are illegitimate. A more practical approach would be for more self control on the part of the fornicators..

White Americans HAVE “adopted” by virtue of our tax paid welfare programs - of which there are dozens -— all the illegitimate and legitimate black and white children living in circumstance we consider “poverty”...

In many States in the past — Blacks have opposed white families adopting black children out of fear the black children would lose their “cultural roots”.....
Somehow - that doesn’t sound like a bad idea in many cases.


50 posted on 07/28/2007 8:09:59 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

BTTT


51 posted on 07/28/2007 9:56:49 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: river rat
You need to get back on your meds.....

This would probably go over better if it weren't followed by a long, strange rant that has nothing to do with this thread. Abortion is legal in the US. Abortion by gender is legal in the US.
52 posted on 07/29/2007 1:13:19 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: wagglebee

Pretty ugly.

Femininazis never speak up for real women.


53 posted on 07/29/2007 2:17:38 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If the families still ran Las Vegas, Harry Reid would be napping at the bottom of Hoover Dam)
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To: Oratam

Rotflmao!

That would be Dr. Kali-goddess of destruction!

That’s what I call the doctor who wanted to yank my gallbladder, and probably my plumbing. Man, that woman was evil!


54 posted on 07/29/2007 2:28:30 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If the families still ran Las Vegas, Harry Reid would be napping at the bottom of Hoover Dam)
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


55 posted on 07/29/2007 4:06:16 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: river rat; design engineer
Besides your nonsensical ranting against diversity and multiculturalism like a broken record...... you seem to have completely lost out on what design engineer tried to tell you.

What you do for your country and society is no doubt great but irrelevant to the topic. If you wish to concentrate on the handful of negative examples that are present in every society then US itself has plenty in store, and thats despite whatever you do. You may not belong to KKK (nobody is saying you do), but reality is it still exist.

Go a few posts above and take a look at the bar graph that shows number number of countries thats above India in terms of the number of abortion. Look at where the US stands. With 4 out of every 1000 aborted out of a population of 400,000,000 you have 1,600,000 babies aborted and in comparison its 600,000 in India out of a population of a billion.

Regardless of what you try do the reality is that there are still plenty of negatives examples present within US itself if all you ever want to do is concentrate on the negative aspect of a culture or country.

Indians also bring along with them to US as part of their culture, strong family values, emphasis on hard work and education, strong moral ethics regarding sex, drug abuse etc something that lot of Americans themselves lack.

If you want to pick on a few bad apples there are lots to choose from among American culture itself.

56 posted on 07/29/2007 8:41:31 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: wagglebee

FR *bookmark*


57 posted on 07/29/2007 8:46:06 AM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
"This would probably go over better if it weren't followed by a long, strange rant that has nothing to do with this thread. Abortion is legal in the US. Abortion by gender is legal in the US."

You need to learn how to follow a thread.
I was responding to a poster who claimed my earlier post brought up abortion (it didn't) - and then led to an insane discussion on the failure of whites to adopt black children....which also wasn't addressed by my earlier post.

58 posted on 07/29/2007 9:12:13 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Gengis Khan

If you will point out where I BROUGHT UP the issue of ABORTION, I might be interested in the statistics...

My 2nd post was simply responding the the wildly disassociated ranting of “Design Engineer” who seemed exorcised by the plight of illegitimate black babies in America....

As an aside - the chart you reference purports to show ABORTIONS..
By definition, abortions destroy children PRIOR to birth..

Therefore, the chart couldn’t account for the children murdered after birth by parents too poor to afford the test necessary to determine sex prior to birth......

Your focus on the problems with “American Culture”, perhaps overlooks the major negative influence from the criminal elements present within the vast influx of illegal immigrants who are neither American or reflective of American culture.


59 posted on 07/29/2007 9:30:36 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
In case you haven’t noticed this thread is about abortion and thats what we are discussing.

““Design Engineer” who seemed exorcised by the plight of illegitimate black babies in America...”

One would think their plight is something unthinkable in a country like the US but its not. It maybe better to be more concerned about the mess on ones own turf then be paranoid of “diversity” and “multiculturism”. That applies to any country or society.

“As an aside - the chart you reference purports to show ABORTIONS..
By definition, abortions destroy children PRIOR to birth..

Therefore, the chart couldn’t account for the children murdered after birth by parents too poor to afford the test necessary to determine sex prior to birth......”

While abortion in India is legal (sex determination is not), children murdered after birth is considered “murder” not abortion, and is illegal and is severely punishable by law. And while I believe that number is even smaller, it is however a different topic. The stats for US also does not display child murder either. Child abuse my parents are not entirely unheard of in the US. India however has a large number of children abandoned who mostly turn up on the streets and also a large number die as a result of neglect and malnutrition. Its happens mostly out of poverty not because of culture (the argument you are trying to put forth).

“Your focus on the problems with “American Culture”, perhaps overlooks the major negative influence from the criminal elements present within the vast influx of illegal immigrants who are neither American or reflective of American culture.”

While a large number of criminal elements do come from influx of illegals its hardly unique or restricted among that particular group. A large number of them are American born citizens.

60 posted on 07/29/2007 10:17:31 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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