Individual communities can't decide who is a U.S. citizen [Xenophobia Alert]

Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | July 31, 2007

[SwinneySwitch]

A federal judge cast the bright light of reality into the immigration issue last week when he ruled that cities have no place in deciding who is legal or illegal. The ruling found unconstitutional the ordinances written by the leaders of Hazleton, Pa., a small town that has become a model for towns wanting to take the law into their own hands. The ruling came as a reminder that though Congress has failed to take responsible action on immigration, the job of writing immigration law can't be usurped by local government.

The ordinances in Hazleton were meant to punish landlords who rented to undocumented immigrants and to deter employers from hiring immigrants who couldn't prove they were American citizens. In general, the ordinances were meant to signal that the Pennsylvania town was no place for immigrants and those who supported immigrants. But this case was about more than just sweeping away discriminatory laws; it was about stopping xenophobia from being codified into municipal laws. Hazleton has grown from a city that only had a small percentage of Hispanic residents to one that now has a Hispanic population of about a third. The change has left many older residents unsettled and fearful, which led to the enactment of the ordinances. That cultural change is common among the other communities that have enacted similar ordinances to ones that were passed in Hazleton. The message in each case was simply that change was unwelcome to a segment of the population.

But just because some long-time residents were uncomfortable with their new neighbors didn't mean that the due process clause of the Constitution had been neutralized. Judge James M. Munley wrote in his ruling that all persons, even illegal immigrants, have a right to due process under the law and the Hazleton ordinances denied them that right.

The point, Munley wrote, is that only Congress has the right to determine who should immigrate into the country, not city governments.

Congress has tried twice to write a comprehensive immigration law that will address the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants in the country and twice failed. But it doesn't get to pass that job to some other government. Immigration is a federal job and Congress must come to grips with it.

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[SwinneySwitch]

Congress HAS determined who can immigrate into this country, Caller-Times!

[ckilmer]

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

American citizens have no right to defend themselves and the federal government won't do the job. This would be alright if there weren't murderers in our midst.

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article.

All that said, it could be argued that if you include the number of illegals in state and local prisons the number of illegals in jail shrinks to 6% of the total prison population. Never the less if you multiply 16692 (the number of americans murdered in 2005) * .06 (illegal alien percent of total prison population) * 4 (the number of years the US has been in Iraq). The result is that more americans (4006) have been killed by illegals than have been killed in the Iraq war.

This point needs to be hammered home. Just as the liberals have hammered home the point about americans killed in Iraq.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

[P-40]

"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,; that, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such forms, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

[econjack]

The ruling found unconstitutional the ordinances written by the leaders of Hazleton, Pa., a small town that has become a model for towns wanting to take the law into their own hands. The ruling came as a reminder that though Congress has failed to take responsible action on immigration, the job of writing immigration law can't be usurped by local government.

Really? Why not? If the feds sit there with their thumb up their collective a$$es, why shouldn't local gov't take action? The fallout of that indecision falls at the local level, so why shouldn't they take action? This writer obviously has some agenda to put forth, and is doing it under the guise of news.

[tumblindice]

http://www.caller.com/staff/nick-jimenez/

Let nick know what you think/

[wastedyears]

What happens when government can’t do its job?

[DuncanWaring]

For emphasis:

That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,; that, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government,

[gubamyster]

ping

[raybbr]

A federal judge cast the bright light of reality into the immigration issue last week when he ruled that cities have no place in deciding who is legal or illegal. The ruling found unconstitutional the ordinances written by the leaders of Hazleton, Pa., a small town that has become a model for towns wanting to take the law into their own hands. The ruling came as a reminder that though Congress has failed to take responsible action on immigration, the job of writing immigration law can't be usurped by local government.

Wrong! One of the questions the judge asked Barletta was whether he had consulted mexico before enacting this law and was used as part of his argument against it.

[dirtboy]

In general, the ordinances were meant to signal that the Pennsylvania town was no place for immigrants and those who supported immigrants.

The Big Lie, but usually not stated so brazenly.

[dirtboy]

The point, Munley wrote, is that only Congress has the right to determine who should immigrate into the country, not city governments.

Gawd, of all the convoluted logic. If we applied this nonsense to driving, only state troopers could cite someone for having a suspended license or no registration, since the state issues those documents.

[raybbr]

From GlennBeck.com:

MAYOR BARLETTA: And a federal judge has granted that. And, you know, he made the claim that by removing illegal aliens, we will effect foreign alliances.

GLENN: That’s not his job.

MAYOR BARLETTA: That we should have contacted foreign countries to ask them if it’s okay to remove illegal aliens.

GLENN: He did not say that. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He did not say that.

MAYOR BARLETTA: I was asked during the trial when I was on the stand if I had called President Calderon to tell him about this ordinance before we passed it. And in the judge’s decision he said, by removing illegal aliens, we will effect foreign alliances.

GLENN: Let me tell you something. Anybody who said Mex-Ameri-Canada, that I was crazy for Mex-Ameri-Canada, here it is. We are now asking permission if we can enforce our own laws here? What was your response to him?

MAYOR BARLETTA: I laughed. I thought the joke was a lighter moment in the trial, but the ACLU attorney was serious and obviously the judge agreed because he felt that we should have checked with other countries before we passed this law.

The judge also made the claim that the federal government wants some illegal aliens to remain in the country, that the government wants a balance, by closing off the border but allowing some illegal aliens in the interior. Now, I don’t know what law in this country of America said that we want illegal aliens to remain in the interior of the country, and this judge obviously was imposing his own views, and we nee

[tumblindice]

comprehensive, immigrant, xenophobic, unconstitutional, undocumented...
Wow man, there a way too many big words in this article.
And they are all yoofa, upha, eufami—made-up words to describe different things than they purport to represent:
comprehensive=total amnesty
immmigrant=illegal alien
xenophobic=law abiding citizen
unconstitutional=we don’t like what you’re doing
undocumented=illegal alien

[Califreak]

I can’t believe how much more rights, benefits, etc these people get. They get more than the people who were born and raised here.

WTF is wrong with our government-excuse me THE government?
I used to work with a Kurdish refugee. All he ever talked about was all the great stuff our government gave him. Free housing, food, medical, college. After a few days of this everybody on the crew(mostly born & raised here and all working class)hated this guy! On a brighter note, he didn’t bash our country. Maybe he was just really thankful to be here. If I got out of that hellhole, I would be grateful too, but I wouldn’t be bragging about all my freebies from the government around a bunch of people who just work hard and take no handouts.

A lot of them are so arrogant, they think they’re better than us and entitled to EVERYTHING. I have no sympathy for them as I press 1 for english and see them waving a foreign flag in the street to make their so-called point.
Maybe americans would be a little more open minded if these people ditched THEIR flag and showed a little respect for their host, as they are (uninvited)GUESTS IN OUR COUNTRY.
This behavior only insults me as an american and makes me hate them all.

[Logophile]

The ordinances in Hazleton were meant to punish landlords who rented to undocumented immigrants and to deter employers from hiring immigrants who couldn't prove they were American citizens.

In other words, the local ordinances were not intended to decide who is a U.S. citizen, despite what an idiot headline writer may think.

[DustyMoment]

A federal judge cast the bright light of reality into the immigration issue last week when he ruled that cities have no place in deciding who is legal or illegal.

Perhaps the judge would like to re-read the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. Methinks the judge is talking through his hat!!

[zerosix]

Well, there IS a remedy in our Constitution, that is totally LEGAL!!!!

Look it up!

[wastedyears]

I wasn’t actually asking the question. Just making a little reference to why we have the Second Amendment.

[SwinneySwitch]

Ping!

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[MIT-Elephant]

These liberals don’t get it. These people aren’t xenophobes and modern-day Klansmen - they’re tired of giving a piece of their society to thieves and criminals.

A hilarious point: Canadians love to buy into the multi-culti crap, but their society is culturally homogenized to a greater degree than ours.