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I've said this before: I've had too many family members die from cancer, and I think every woman should get this vaccination. Now it sounds like you can get HPV from non-sexual activity. Why would anyone not want their daughters and mothers and sisters to be protected as best they can from cancer?
1 posted on 08/01/2007 11:01:58 AM PDT by mngran
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So what? How is it suppose to get from his fingernails to h...

Oh.

2 posted on 08/01/2007 11:03:52 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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HPV virus in men can cause health problems, too. The vaccine doesn’t work for them?

“It can increase a man’s risk of getting genital cancers, although these cancers are not common. HPV can also cause genital warts in men, just as in women.”


3 posted on 08/01/2007 11:04:47 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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The presence of HPV under fingernails, she said, at the very least suggests another possible route of transmission.

Or it may not, not to get too graphic about it. And it definitely doesn't suggest that there has been a long-term study of this vaccine's effects on . . . anyone at all! Talk about making a market for yourself by government fiat. Yeah, I trust your research.

Merck's been nailed for carelessness and a shallow research bench before. I wouldn't bet on that pony, thanks.

4 posted on 08/01/2007 11:05:47 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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Many people feel that the vaccine itself carries too many risks.

Also, no one has to answer you. Parents make the decisions about what is best for their children here in America. Not overwrought “nannyism” bantering on about people they know who got had cancer.


5 posted on 08/01/2007 11:06:20 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Support America, Support Duncan Hunter for President)
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"It's for the children!" or "Minority women hit hardest"

Both are the siren call of the Moonbat Liberal.

Take it someplace else.

L

6 posted on 08/01/2007 11:08:45 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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Why would anyone not want their daughters and mothers and sisters to be protected as best they can from cancer?

The key to your statement is as best they can. Have you seen the recent TV commercials from a lawyer trolling for "victims" of the dye used in kidney MRI's? There are many of us concerned about what we don't know about medical technology and what is put into our bodies. I will not subject my prepubescent daughter to a vaccine with little if any history of trials with children her age, certainly not following them through puberty and into their childbearing years. As best I can means educating her about the morality and consequences of sexual activity, NOT subjecting her to medical experimentation. Further, she STILL needs the behavior modification since the vaccine offers only partial protection.

Signed, DES baby. Yeah, been there, done that. Thank goodness I was male (but it might explain a few things - who can I sue?)

11 posted on 08/01/2007 11:13:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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Have you had many family members die from cervical cancer? You know, all adult women have been advised for at least 30 years (long before the HPV/cancer connection was even hypothesized) to get annual Pap tests with prompt follow-up treatment for any irregular results.


15 posted on 08/01/2007 11:17:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Sweden delivers the Epilogue.)
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Government has no business mandating such a vaccine. Period.


25 posted on 08/01/2007 11:23:55 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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I think all young boys and men should be vaccinated immediately......infact, it should be a state law.....


27 posted on 08/01/2007 11:25:19 AM PDT by cherry
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The best protection from cervical cancer is yearly pap smears.


28 posted on 08/01/2007 11:25:25 AM PDT by elc
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32 posted on 08/01/2007 11:33:24 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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I've said this before: I've had too many family members die from cancer, and I think every woman should get this vaccination. Now it sounds like you can get HPV from non-sexual activity. Why would anyone not want their daughters and mothers and sisters to be protected as best they can from cancer?

I respect what you've been through and how you feel. However, you should respect that it should be up to no one bu the parents to decide to which UNnecessary vaccines their children are subject. Cancer is not a communicable disease and this is not some huge public health emergency. This vaccine is pretty much untested, and no one knows the efficacy or the longterm side effects. So, to turn your question around, why would anyone want their daughters and mothers and sisters to become guinea pigs for a pharmaceutical company? JMO.

33 posted on 08/01/2007 11:34:15 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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The CDC...estimates that 25 percent of all women in the U.S. are already infected with the [HPV] virus...

I absolutely don't believe this. They need to test everyone in the country for the HPV virus, if they believe that 25% of women are infected. It sounds like they are in league with the vaccine companies, in order for the vaccine companies to make money. Does the CDC get a kickback?

36 posted on 08/01/2007 11:40:50 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Evil never stops.)
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The elephant in this room is the cost of these ‘free’ HPV immunizations. I understand that the full course of shots costs over $300. I don’t recall having the public debate about the best place to spend this money, and it appears to be a big pile of dough. Of course, politics doesn’t really care about health, it cares about politics. If that were not true, then why have the several States spent such a small percent of the Tobacco Settlement funds on helping people to stop smoking, or in really paying for their medical expenses?

If HPV was so costly in the form of costs of care and treatment, we would see health insurance carriers urging their policyholders to be immunized.

I agree with a previous poster: it is not any of the government’s business if I force my daughter to get the shots or not.

39 posted on 08/01/2007 11:41:18 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Keeping one’s fingernails short and washing one’s hands after using the toilet might mitigate HPV somewhat. Might help; wouldn’t hurt.

The “WHO Guidelines on Hand Hygiene in Health Care” states that:

• “Failure to comply with hand hygiene is considered the leading cause of health care-associated infections.”

• “Each year, at least two million patients in the USA acquire one or more healthcare-associated infections during their stay in hospital.”

• “Every day 247 people die in the USA as a result of a health-associated infection.”

Infectious diseases, caused by unclean hands, are the leading causes of death and disease worldwide

and the third leading cause of death in the United States.


42 posted on 08/01/2007 11:43:54 AM PDT by LucyT
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I do not agree with anyone receiving this vaccination. Merck's so-called studies are a disgrace. Why would anyone trust a company who brought us drugs like Vioxx and Fosamax?

Back in June, it was reported that over 1,600 adverse reactions, including three deaths, had been linked to Gardasil, Merck’s new vaccine.

It appears those reactions, and deaths, are steadily rising. A review of the National Vaccine Information Center revealed the following, quite alarming, statistic about this unnecessary vaccine: 2,207 adverse reactions to Gardasil have been reported. Among them:

5 girls died

31 were considered life-threatening

1,385 required a visit to the emergency room

451 of the girls have not recovered as of July 2007

51 of the girls were disabled

Gardasil “may be more dangerous than consumers have been led to believe,” according to one public-interest group, and an editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine has also raised questions about the vaccine's effectiveness.

Did you know that 90% of all HPV cases clear up on their own with proper diet and proper medical treament?

Plus, five minutes of homework will reveal that NOT ONE fertility test was done on any of the so-called Merck female test subjects for Gardasil. Merck also does not recommend the vaccinations after the age of 25. Hmmmm....why is that????????????????????

Don't drink the koolaid! LOL!

43 posted on 08/01/2007 11:44:06 AM PDT by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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I've had too many family members die from cancer, and I think every woman should get this vaccination.

If your family members are dieing of cervical cancer, it suggests that they are not getting proper medical care. I would suggest an immediate change in GYNs.

49 posted on 08/01/2007 12:15:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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HPV is a SKIN disease, period. It poses a cancer risk when some women have the virus (certain strands) come in contact with their mucus membrames (cervical cancer) genital warts. It has also been linked to throat cancer.

All it takes is the virus to come into contact with these areas to possibly cause an infection. The idea it only can be spread by intercourse is naive.

I don’t believe children should be given this vaccine, as long term effects are just not known. However those that think this isn’t a real risk to their daughters because its “only an STD” are misinformed.

Its a skin disease, one that something like 80 or 90% of the population will be infected with at one time in their lives or another.


53 posted on 08/01/2007 12:23:03 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Because this ‘cure’ has not been fully tested. You can get flesh eating bacteria from the ocean, do you plan to bar every person with an open wound from going into the ocean?

It’s entirely up to my wife if she wants this ‘cure’. When my daughters are old enough, it’s their decision if they want this ‘cure’. No government should mandate they get this ‘cure’.

Also, what is the percentage again of HPV strains this prevents? I may be wrong, but IIRC it was 4%. That’s not enough to have the government FORCE my children to get something that we have NO IDEA what the long term effects are.


57 posted on 08/01/2007 12:51:09 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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I don’t trust this vaccine.


60 posted on 08/01/2007 12:53:57 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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