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Vanity: Civil War Research; Three simple questions

Posted on 08/02/2007 9:24:27 PM PDT by bicpen

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To: Stonewall Jackson

Uncles ashes turned over to Confederate Graves Registration, Richmond, Virginia, 7 days before the end of the War. Claimed by family members about 4 months later. He is probably burries in a family plot somewhere near Trickem On Gooch Creek, Arkansas.


61 posted on 08/05/2007 1:00:35 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Ken Burns seems about your speed.

Bwaahahahha...that's funny....

62 posted on 08/06/2007 11:04:30 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Stonewall Jackson

“One was killed during a cavalry skirmish in Tennessee in 1863”

Do you know what battle he was killed in? I live in east Tennessee and know quite a lot about the Civil War in this state.


63 posted on 08/06/2007 11:08:19 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: bicpen

Lincoln Memorial University in Harrogate Tennessee, might be one place to look, they have extensive research available on President Lincoln and the Civil War.


64 posted on 08/06/2007 11:10:13 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler
He was mortally wounded and captured during the Battle of Dover (often called the Second Battle of Fort Donelson, even though it was fought in the town instead of the fort), fought on the afternoon of February 3, 1863.

His name was David Belcher, and he was a private in Company K of the 2nd Georgia Cavalry. He suffered a severe wound to the shoulder during the fight and was captured by the Union garrison when they recaptured the houses they'd abandoned to Forrest's troopers earlier in the fight. Taken to the field hospital at nearby Fort Donelson, David lingered for over a month before dying of an infection on March 10, 1863.

His cousin is my great-great-grandmother, who moved to Texas after the war and married a man who'd served with the 46th Texas Cavalry (McCord's Frontier Cavalry). All four of her brothers fought in the war, with one dying at Crampton's Gap, Maryland and another being captured at Cold Harbor and dying at the POW Camp in Elmira, New York. The two younger brothers didn't join the war until almost the end, thus missing most of the conflict. After the war, they headed to Texas with two of their cousins to find new homes for their families and ended up getting poisoned for the fifty dollars in gold they were carrying. Their cousins survived the poisoning, but they did not.

65 posted on 08/06/2007 12:35:55 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

(he is buried in the National Cemetery there at Elmira and I plan on driving up there next year during my trip to Gettysburg and Antietam).

I just got back from Gettysburg a couple of weeks ago. It was great, even though traffic has gotten much worse over the decade since my last visit.

One of the new monuments is a bronze of James Longstreet, near where his HQ was during the battle. By chance I happend to meet the ‘model’ for the sculpture at Dale Galleon’s (spelling) gallery in Steinwyr (spelling again!) avenue.

His habit of speaking in ‘first person’ while dressed as the late, great CSA General unnerved my wife a bit....(chuckle)


66 posted on 08/06/2007 12:40:22 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: carton253

For Lincoln ping Non-Sequitur. He has so much info at his finger tips.

Yep, and some of it is even correct!

(chuckle)


67 posted on 08/06/2007 12:41:55 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Thanks for the reply. Fort Donelson was a major battle where the Confederates were greatly outnumbered, but fought hard, many also captured by the Union. Huge numbers of confederates were injured (I think about 400) and 100 died.

Just about everywhere you go in Tennessee there are Civil War markers. My ancestors also were in the war, I have a lot of info on their participation. If you ever get a chance to visit Tennessee try to visit some of these battlefields.

Just finished a book recently about the Cumberland Mountain area where I live. Many of the feuds here in the late 1800s were a result of grievances left over from the Civil War. Loyalties here were split and the term “brother against brother” was real here more than anywhere.


68 posted on 08/06/2007 1:12:02 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Badeye

LOL!


69 posted on 08/06/2007 1:27:12 PM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: girlangler
There were actually two battles at or near Fort Donelson. The first was in February of 1862 and the entire garrison, almost 16,000 men, was taken captive by Grant. The second battle, the one where my ancestor was killed, was fought a year later with 36 Confederates dying and another 250 suffering wounds.

I just visited Fort Donelson and Dover a few weeks ago. They have really done a nice job restoring the fort to its former glory.

70 posted on 08/06/2007 2:40:59 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

‘I just visited Fort Donelson and Dover a few weeks ago. They have really done a nice job restoring the fort to its former glory.’

Every time I drive down to Texas I go by the exits, and never seem to have the time to stop. I’ll get there eventually.


71 posted on 08/07/2007 5:52:55 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye
They have just about completed their restoration of the shore batteries, I believe they are still lacking one cannon from having them all in place. You cannot go into the upper battery due to some visitors tearing it up a few years ago, but you can walk down to the lower battery and stand right beside its three cannon. As you stand there, your mind's eye can almost see Commodore Foote's fleet of gunboats churning down the Cumberland, heading straight toward you.

If you ever have a day to spend in this part of the country, I recommend a stop at Fort Donelson, which should take two hours at the most, and then a visit to Shiloh, which is about three hours away.

72 posted on 08/07/2007 9:32:57 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: benldguy

Ping for later...


73 posted on 08/07/2007 9:34:52 AM PDT by CurlyBill (Democrats: Trying hard to manufacture a loss in Iraq ... all for politics)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

If you ever have a day to spend in this part of the country, I recommend a stop at Fort Donelson, which should take two hours at the most, and then a visit to Shiloh, which is about three hours away.

Shiloh would be ‘the reason’ for the trip, but if you are there, might as well hit Donelson too.

Just got back from Gettysburg a couple of weeks ago, our second visit. We’ve been to almost every ‘eastern theater’ battlefield, time to take a gander at the western end of the conflict.


74 posted on 08/07/2007 9:35:01 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye
Yep, and some of it is even correct!

What parts are wrong? The ones that conflict with Southron mythology?

75 posted on 08/07/2007 9:38:14 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yep, and some of it is even correct!

What parts are wrong? The ones that conflict with Southron mythology?

I was kidding NS.

Now...where do we find Mordor down south?

(chuckle)

btw, had a great time up in Gettysburg a couple of weeks ago. Quite a few changes since my last visit in the 1990’s. I was especially impressed with the Longstreet bronze near where his HQ was during the battle. Its magnificent.


76 posted on 08/07/2007 10:00:50 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: indcons
I finally found a list of the Union brigade commanders who were still colonels when they were killed.

Killed in Action

Brigade Commanders, With Rank of Colonel

Colonel Edward D Baker - 71st Pennsylvania - Ball's Bluff

Colonel Julius Raith - 43d Illinois - Shiloh

Colonel Everett Peabody - 25th Missouri - Shiloh

Colonel George Webster - 98th Ohio - Chaplin Hills

Colonel John A Koltes - 73d Pennsylvania - Manassas

Colonel William B Goodrich - 60th New York - Antietam

Colonel George W Roberts - 42d Illinois - Stone's River

Colonel Frederick Schaefer - 2d Missouri - Stone's River

Colonel George C Spear - 61st Pennsylvania - Marye's Heights

Colonel David S Cowles - 128th New York - Port Hudson

Colonel George B Boomer - 26th Missouri - Vicksburg

Colonel Edward E Cross - 5th New Hampshire - Gettysburg

Colonel George L Willard - 125th New York - Gettysburg

Colonel Eliakim Sherrill - 126th New York - Gettysburg

Colonel Haldinand S Putnam - 7th New Hampshire - Fort Wagner

Colonel James E Mallon - 42d New York - Bristoe Station

Colonel Edward A King - 68th Indiana - Chickamauga

Colonel Hans C Heg - 15th Wisconsin - Chickamauga

Colonel Philemon P Baldwin - 6th Indiana - Chickamauga

Colonel William R Creighton - 7th Ohio - Ringgold

Colonel Patrick E Burke - 66th Illinois - Rome Cross Roads

Colonel Orlando H Morris - 66th New York - Cold Harbor

Colonel Lewis O Morris - 7th New York (H A) - Cold Harbor

Colonel Henry Boyd McKeen - 81st Pennsylvania - Cold Harbor

Colonel Frank A Haskell - 36th Wisconsin - Cold Harbor

Colonel Jeremiah C Drake - 112th New York - Cold Harbor

Colonel Richard Byrnes - 28th Massachusetts - Cold Harbor

Colonel Patrick Kelly - 88th New York - Petersburg

Colonel William Blaisdell - 11th Massachusetts - Petersburg

Colonel Simon Mix - 3d New York Cavalry - Petersburg

Colonel Calvin A Craig - 105th Pennsylvania - Deep Bottom

Colonel Nathan T Dushane - 1st Maryland - Weldon Railroad

Colonel Joseph Theburn - 1st West Virginia - Cedar Creek

Colonel Louis Bell - 4th New Hampshire - Fort Fisher

I found the list in Fox's Regimental Losses at http://www.civilwarhome.com/foxspref.htm

77 posted on 08/17/2007 10:54:24 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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