Posted on 08/03/2007 12:58:49 AM PDT by neverdem
WASHINGTON, Aug. 2 When a broad immigration bill failed in the Senate in June after a vitriolic national debate, many legislators said the issue was dead, perhaps until President Bush left office. But already some of the less contentious pieces of the bill are returning to life.
Last week, the Senate approved $3 billion for border security as part of a Homeland Security Department spending bill. Democrats and Republicans have also begun laying ground for a bill to create a new temporary immigrant worker program for agriculture.
Another bill, also with bipartisan support, would give a path to citizenship to high school graduates who are illegal immigrants if they complete two years of college or military service. Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois and a sponsor of the bill, attached it as an amendment to the military authorization legislation that the Senate last month put off until September. Mr. Durbin said he would seek to move it again then.
The agriculture and student measures have a decent chance of passing this Congress because they have strong champions, broad bipartisan support and they have been around for a long time, said Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, which supported the broad bill. But he cautioned that they would have to overcome a toxic atmosphere on immigration in the wake of the defeated bill.
The college bill attracted renewed interest this week because of Juan Sebastian Gomez, a student who just graduated with honors from Killian Senior High School in Miami. On July 25, immigration agents in Florida detained Mr. Gomez, 18, his brother and his parents, all illegal immigrants from Colombia, and prepared to deport them. Immigration officials delayed the deportation on Wednesday after a group of Mr. Gomezs high school friends roused support in South...
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Graham, McCain, Kyl, et al, seem to have seen the light, been reborn.
It is also known as trying to save their rears in the next election because they apparently already cashed the checks from the special interests who were pushing them to pass amnesty for illegals.
I disagree. I would prefer that our soldiers be uncoerced volunteers.
Why should we permit illegals to join the military in the first place? What a gross hypocrisy. Are we so hard up for bodies that we have to make a mockery of U.S. sovereignty this way?
An amnesty almost as large as 1986 was included in the Senate Ag bill last week. I haven’t had time to check on the status.
The S-CHIP health insurance program was being revised to include approximately 1 million children of illegal aliens.
The Congress is adopting a new incrementalism, doing what they wanted to do in June, but now by stealth.
Service in the combat arms, please. The motorpool or an office job is no place for these people. Otherwise they might just as well work at McDonald’s or Homeless Depot.
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Finally! Hate crimes I can agree with!
Agreed. Two years of college is bs. The local cholos could pencil-whip that with some bogus paperwork from their cousin who works at the local Jr. College. Or something equally as simple.
These "Repeat Amnesty Bill Offenders" (RABO's) need to be positively identified. This list should be maintained and available throughout the entire 2008 election process.
Only by such a focused effort will we have a good chance at a overall knockout punch to the anti-American amnesty-for-votes click in DC. We need a demonstration of power. Once the list is established our goal should be 90% do not get reelected. To be on the list should be a political death sentence.
Will something like this work?
Dang right it will work! It is already working!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1875492/posts
"McCain changes course on immigration"
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful John McCain on Thursday backed a scaled-down proposal that imposes strict rules to end illegal immigration but doesn't include a path to citizenship. The move away from a comprehensive measure is an about-face for the Arizona senator, who had been a leading GOP champion of a bill that included a guest worker program and would have legalized many of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S. It failed earlier this year.
Now, McCain is actually either to stubborn or too stupid to realize that he is as done as French Toast BUT as a failing candidate he is a classic model of what I am talking about.
'The collapse of John McCain's campaign is the most visible sign of conservatives walking away from GOP leaders associated with the comprehensive immigration strategy,"
Now look at the date on the chart...
And it should be the same for the "Repeat Amnesty Bill Offenders" (RABO's).
So what if an illegal alien graduates from high school - they should not even be allowed into high schools. No way should this be a path to citizenship.
What is so adorable about these criminals that our politicians are fighting in spite of it costing them votes?
They will get their amnesty one way or the other . Just passed a bill to give them free insurance ,while we can’t afford insurance premium it’s so high . I guess they need help to pay for all those births and chain reactions of them ,like anchor baby’s and family’s.
I am at the point of almost not caring anymore. I am so depressed about it all .
The DREAM act is a NIGHTMARE.
It is a rolling amnesty for anyone here in the US that graduates high school. at taxpayers expense).
This is about illegal immigrant families getting yet another incentive for illegal immigration and more billions in welfare and other costs diverted because we cant control our immigration system. It is *hard* to get student visas, and putting this in place is a bad idea that makes our immigration system more broken than it would otherwise be.
Don’t bring in the military to this, it has nothing to do with it, and is just one of the feel-good sops thrown out there to divert from the massive amnesty that this represents.
All these bills should be seriously and strongly opposed until we get ENFORCEMENT FIRST out of the Congress.
“Military service should be the only way for illegals to become legal, IMHO.
This is extremely dangerous. Illegals have absolutely no tradition of individual freedom and 99.9% of them will say “qué?” when asked about the the Bill of Rights. The not too long term plans of the democrats in Kongress include eventual confiscation of all privately owned firearms, and who do you think will be more likely to carry out such orders? Native born Americans or illegals (Mate a la gente con los armas? Si jeffe.)”
For more on this in history, read “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”. The barbarians that were let into the Roman Army (because the Romans needed to recruit more to fight, uh, other barbarians) eventually became the agents for the destruction of the western Roman Empire in the 5th century.
Somehow we must become better organized, and we have to keep after those who for whatever reason want to push amnesty and perks for illegal aliens down our throats.
Good point.
I totally disagree. 100 percent. So cheer up.
The Senate is a pack of wolves, but lone wolves. They do not play nice together, and they don't do that unless they must.
Take John Kerry with his Tuesday to Thursday "work" week. He files no bills, he misses many votes, he cosponsors only the trivial, and he continues to be reelected.
"He's an odd duck," you say. But, no, he isn't. That's how they all operate, as complete loners who come together only when they must. You see Kennedy at the rostrum with 5 other Senators and you think "They're pals, it's always like this for them". No, it isn;t. After that press op, Kennedy flies back to his office and 30+ person staff, slams the door to his office, and that's it, he;s doing whatever it is he does in there.
My point is that the Senate is far too self-absorbed and disconnected to come up with (not to mention execute) a plot or conspiracy.
What they did in Junes was genuine, as was their shock at being called to task by constituents. They live in another world. They were truly perturbed by all those telephone calls, faxes, and emails.
What I said. Those who are ignorant of history may end up repeating it. Of course sometimes those who are cognizant of history want to repeat it. It appears that the Democrats and a number of Republicans want to destroy America as we know it today and repalce itwith something along more socialist/totalitarial lines.
In 1993, it was widely expected that socialized health care would arrive to the US.
In 1994, the Hillary Socialized Health Care plan exploded.
Then Hillary decided to do it incremental. Step 1 was the CHIP program. Step 2 was prescription drugs. Now, this week we get a huge expansion in CHIP, ‘kids’ who are 25 and families who make enough to pay AMT will get benefits - socialized medicine by increments.
In 2006, then in 2007, two attempts were made at wholesale amnesty. It failed.
“But shamnesty was solidly defeated-——the slapdown included the Mexican govt which backed amnesty.”
Just as with socialized medicine, the salami-slice approach to incremental change will be tried.
“Keep in mind that anti-illegal is a rare consensus issue. Politicians from both sides of the aisle are hearing the same thing.”
They need to be told point blank that *ANY AMNESTY PROGRAM IS VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED*. The DREAM Act, the Ag-Job amnesty, or other amnesties are all wrong.
We have to oppose creeping open borders and creeping socialism.
“An amnesty almost as large as 1986 was included in the Senate Ag bill last week. I havent had time to check on the status.
The S-CHIP health insurance program was being revised to include approximately 1 million children of illegal aliens.
The Congress is adopting a new incrementalism, doing what they wanted to do in June, but now by stealth.”
IMPORTANT POINT!
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