Posted on 08/03/2007 4:07:33 AM PDT by Man50D
Cipriano Ortiz-Hernandez, the stash house operator in the "second load" brought across the border by Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila in the Ramos and Compean case, pleaded guilty in El Paso on Tuesday to drug charges.
WND has obtained copies of a signed guilty plea entered with the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas in El Paso by Ortiz-Hernandez admitting that he conspired to possess with the intent to distribute 2,200 pounds or more of marijuana in violation of federal drug statutes.
The plea bargain allows prosecuting U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton to continue withholding government investigative reports implicating Aldrete-Davila with a "second load" drug incident involving Ortiz-Hernandez.
Had Ortiz-Hernandez sought a trial, his defense attorneys would have demanded release of Department of Homeland Security and Drug Enforcement Administration reports naming Aldrete-Davila as a perpetrator in at least one drug incident for which Ortiz-Hernandez has pleaded guilty.
WND has previously reported that a Nov. 21, 2001, report by DHS Special Agent Christopher Sanchez indicates DEA investigators conducted a "knock and talk" with Ortiz-Hernandez in Clinton, Texas, Oct. 23, 2005, in which they learned of Aldrete-Davila's second incident.
In his opening statement Tuesday at the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing on Ramos and Compean, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., revealed his office was also in possession of a DEA investigative report documenting Aldrete-Davila's involvement in the second load involving Ortiz-Hernandez.
Aldrete-Davila's second load occurred just prior to the scheduled start of the Ramos-Compean trial, while Aldrete-Davila was under a grant of immunity by Sutton's office to be the government's lead witness against the two border agents.
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Gimme a break!
A Nov. 21 , 2001 report indicates a 'knock and talk' event on Oct. 23, 2005?....... Damn good foresite and futurist predicting I'd say..
Misleading headline. The "Dope Dealer" who pled guilty had no involvement in the Ramos-Compean case. His only connection to anything associated with the case is that, when caught with the load of drugs which he is now pleading guilty to, he claimed he was innocent and that the drugs were left at his house by Davilas, the drug runner in the R-C case.
Apparently, he wasn't really an innocent person who had a load of drugs dumped at his house by a drug-runner after all, as he seems to be pleading guilty to being a drug distributer.
Oddly, the pro-Ramos-Compean folks, who criticize their opponents for believing a "drug smuggler", have absolute confidence that this now-convicted drug dealer was telling the truth when he claimed that the drugs weren't his.
To be more accurate, it's hard to follow all the changes in the WND story on this "2nd bust". But please follow me along the path a little ways.
In an early report on the incident WND claimed:
But sources say Aldrete-Davila technically was apprehended for the second incident, and not arrested, on condition he testify against Ramos and Compean.
For a while, that's what pro-RC folks argued here, that AD had been apprehended with drugs but let off so long as he testified.
Later, WND changed it's story -- no longer had AD been "aprehended", but rather he was "identified" by some guy caught with AD's drugs. In THIS story, the guy ran a "safe house" for illegals, and AD came only because he had "car trouble":
Ortiz-Hernandez explained to DEA investigators that Aldrete-Davila decided to bring the drugs to 12101 Quetzal in Clint, Texas, after the van developed engine trouble. Ortiz-Hernandez had never met Aldrete-Davila. But Aldrete-Davila knew about Ortiz-Hernandez, having grown up with his brother, Jose Roberto Ortiz, in San Ysidro, Mexico.
Because of the family connections, Ortiz-Hernandez gave Aldrete-Davila refuge at his safe house.
Poor innocent Ortiz, caught the next day with drugs from the van because AD left them there. But later, the WND story changes again, as they have to admit that Ortiz isn't really so trustworthy a source, having been caught with quite a bit more than just the single "load" supposedly from AD:
Ortiz-Hernandez has been named in a federal drug indictment that alleges federal agents discovered about 5,000 pounds of marijuana at his house over a period of several visits from March 2004 to October 2005.
In fact, Ortiz had been under investigation for some time. And now, WND reports that he has pled guilty (in referenced article):
WND has obtained copies of a signed guilty plea entered Tuesday with the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas in El Paso by Ortiz-Hernandez admitting he conspired to possess with the intent to distribute 2,200 pounds or more of marijuana in violation of federal drug statutes.
So he's no longer a safe house who innocently was stuck with AD's load, he's no longer a drop-zone for people storing drugs -- he's a DRUG DEALER, who pled guilty to possession with intent to distribute.
And what is this "plea bargain" that supposedly protects AD? He pled to everything we know, AND MORE. What other crimes does WND claim he committed that he was given "leniency" on in order to shut him up about AD? They don't say. I guess they figure we'll think that "more than 2200 pounds" is different than "5000 pounds".
The ONLY evidence ever presented by WND to suggest AD was even involved in this is the testimony of the now-convicted drug dealer that he saw AD's catheter. Some have argued that since he described a catheter so accurately, he must have seen AD, but note that Ortiz also had a catheter.
And of course, news articles about the trial published at the time Ortiz was questioned mentioned AD's involvement, mentioned he was caught with marijuana, and mentioned his operation and his catheter. And mentioned he was coming into the country to testify.
So while it isn't impossible that AD went to Ortiz that night, there is nothing particularly credible about Ortiz's story.
For example, people have argued here that AD must have had a gun, because drug-smuggling is dangerous, and if someone steals your load you might get killed. People have argued that AD might have been SHOT by the drug dealers for losing the load to the police.
But in this story, as originally told by WND, AD was taking drugs SOMEWHERE ELSE, and then LEFT them with Ortiz because he had car trouble. What drug smuggler would drop his load off at the WRONG HOUSE and leave it there? According to the pro-RC folks, that would be a death sentence. But AD is still alive, which suggests AD did NOT take someone's load and give it to Ortiz.
I suppose the pro-RC folks will argue that Ortiz was LYING about WHY AD was at his house, but truthful that he WAS at his house. They would now argue AD was SUPPOSED to deliver the drugs to Ortiz.
But these same pro-RC folks believed that AD was arrested for this 2nd load, CAUGHT with it. Then they believed he had been detained, but not arrested. Then they believed he had car trouble and left it at this innocent man's house. So I guess they wouldn't have trouble with the 4th story either. So long as it makes Sutton look like a liar, who care how many times the story changes?
Oh, and in case anybody is confused by it, when WND cites as a "2nd source of evidence" an "investigative report", they are simply noting the investigative report that contains the claim by Ortiz. In other words, investigative reports are simply the documentation of the claims by the sources, NOT additional proof of the claims. It's a common WND tactic to cite every piece of paper containing a claim as if it's some new piece of evidence proving the claim.
Sutton is the one employed and paid for by US tax payers, and it is his actions and behavior that are disturbingly duplicitous. It is evident that his execution of trial was not representing US interests and indeed doing harm to them. It is also evident that through slick lawyering he suppressed substantial evidence in that trial and is now working to cover it up.
What part the president has in this is unknown. The failure to secure the southern border and the effort from his friend to keep illegal drugs and aliens moving unimpeded is harming his creditability, especially on efforts to prevent another act of terrorism. If Sutton is indeed the presidents good friend he would take the fall for him and attempt to keep this from tainting the president any further. I suspect, however that drip by drip this will destroy the presidents legacy and IF it is evident that Mexico's corrupt government participated in getting the agents jailed Jorge will be vilified by history as a traitor. With that threat looming, wouldn't it be best to pardon the agents, build the fence, deport illegals and launch a trial against Johnny Sutton for prosectorial abuse?
The Reconquista bunch keeps telling us that THEY built America....well, from the looks of our bridges and infrastructure, looks like they're slacking!
Good luck. I salute your diligent efforts in this matter. The innocence of the border thugs is an article of faith amongst the believers here. Arguing fact probably puts you at a disadvantage.
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I heard on AP that you had murdered your dog because your barber was sick. I figured your vet was sick and let you down knowing how AP reports.
Either Sutton and Kanof are mentally ill or they are corrupt.
Charles isn’t citing facts. He’s arguing about what he thinks other people believe. The facts are in the trial transcripts and they unequivocally demonstrate Ramos and Compean were tried by an unethical and corrupt prosecution team.
Mexico did help out by defeating the French invasion of their country in 1863.
Imagine a 100,000 French troops appearing at the Battle of Gettysburg marching with the Confederates.
Mexicans don’t celebrate this event but Mexican-Americans do.
They call it Cinco de Mayo.
Haven’t seen much from them lately other than crude oil sales.
Living on the border here in Texas would focus your understanding of all the crime and vandalism these criminals perpetrate. Your facts are incorrect... Ramos & Compean are the victims here.......
I've listened to Sutton on numerous occasions. He does not sound the least bit mentally ill.
My drivers license has expired more than a few times. This didn't cause me to smuggle drugs. It did prompt me to go to Motor Vehicles and renew it. You'd think a District Attorney would engage in similar thinking and be embarrassed by a witness with such a lame explanation for his felonious behavior.
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