'Keepin' it real' has helped damage Vick

MSNBC ^ | 8/2/2007 | Bryan Burwell

[BradtotheBone]

Here is a video from Chappels show on “keeping it real.”

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=11915&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=/shows/chappelles_show/videos/season_2/index.jhtml&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true

[Aquinasfan]

It's the difference between "The Lord of the Flies" and the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1783. Man in a state of nature is uncontrolled, violent, and selfish.

I disagree. Man, by nature, is more good than bad. Otherwise the human race would have died out a long time ago. Most of the world lives fairly peaceably. This has always been so. Throughout history, conflict has represented the exception, and not the rule.

Man in a state of nature is uncontrolled, violent, and selfish

Can you name a significant society today that could be typically and thoroughly described as such? Or does this represent some imaginary past state of the human race?

But in an advanced society, we establish rules and enforcement mechanisms that create a more harmonious environment in which to live.

Can you name a significant society today where this is not true? Any past society? These things hold true for the most primitive societies that I can think of.

In fact, modern society has morally retrogressed, significantly. No society in human history has killed its unborn on a scale comparable to today. According to Peter Kreeft, when some African primitives were informed of abortion in the West, they were dumbfounded.

We make it. It's not something that springs out of thin air. It's a construct.

I think this is the crux of the issue. Laws don't emerge from nothing. They reflect abiding, eternal principles. Law is the working out of these principles for particular people, places, times and circumstances. "Housing by-law, section 2B," for example, may seem "artificial," but at its root is a principle that is recognized by all people, the notion of private property. All people in all times have recognized that theft is wrong, and implicit in the notion of theft is the notion of private property.

[twonie]

Beautiful dogs. Just beautiful. My girl died in June, and I still don’t know what to do. Guess that’s part of why I’m so vehement on this subject.

[Joe 6-pack]

Thanks...my big guy just died a few weeks ago, and I still catch my little one and I looking for him. It’s not easy filling a 107-lb. hole in your life.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

I stay away from large cities. The scarcity of civility, and the brutality, is more than I can cope with. Giving credit for “civilization” to urban dwellers is beyond me.
Living out in the boonies means that you often have to do things unthinkable to the “higher classes”. There is a cluster of “trailers” and basic houses, maybe 100 people, in the area around me, no one ever need lock their doors.
Maybe we are civilized, and what you do to make a living, or what you live in, have nothing to do with it.
Here are some “redneck” pictures for you.
http://www.pbase.com/tsiya/root
http://photobucket.com/albums/v244/tsiya/

[sweet_diane]

"Have you ever faced someone Hell bent on killing YOU? It puts a whole new face on things."

Fortunately the guy wasn't hellbent on killing me, just keeping me quiet. Self defense is not a 'bloodlust'. I see nothing similar in dog or cock fighting and defending your life.

[sweet_diane]

Great pics swampsniper!