'Keepin' it real' has helped damage Vick

MSNBC ^ | 8/2/2007 | Bryan Burwell

[Red in Blue PA]

That would require cognition and deliberation.

[subterfuge]

Can’t argue with that post except I’d like to hear of his sources. The wussification of America is especially true. As evidence, look at the post before this one that I’ve replied to at number 27.

[subterfuge]

Since you bring this point up, was slavery also a part of the culture that went away because of the “yankeefied wussification of America”?

Hey, what are you doing, highjacking this thread and trying to make it about slavery?

[subterfuge]

You know alot of people cash in their old nick for a new nick and are not really newbies. I am thinking about doing that myself.....

No kidding? After 6 years on the forum that's the first time I ever heard that.

[subterfuge]

I'm left with the conclusion that killing babies is fine in our society. Meanwhile, killing dogs is a hideous crime for which no punishment is severe enough. Our priorities are majorly screwed up.

Thanks for making that point. I'm reminded of that thread about the Vick case that had the word "Unfathomable" acts that were committed. It left me wondering if the author knew what the word unfathomable meant?

[Fawn]

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not....but yes...it’s done more than you realize apparently.

[Red in Blue PA]

He drew a comparison to the “yankeefied wussification of America”, therefore, an alaogy was necessary.

[twonie]

Glad someone else sees it that way. Thank you.

[ClearCase_guy]

What do you mean by "artificial construct"?

While I wouldn't want to be pedantic about words, "civilization" means living in cities. It differentiates nomadic people, or people who live in jungles from those people who settled down, built cities, established governments and agriculture and started building cultures that had longevity, permanence and made contributions to the future.

Civilization is very much an artificial construct. To describe just any ol' gathering of humans I would use the word "society".

[twonie]

Right on the money, Aquinasfan! Right on.

[Charles Martel]

So the phrase means what?

From urbandictionary.com (note... these are definitions submitted online, not unlike Wikipedia). Nevertheless, here 'tis:

1. Keepin it real

When staying true to your "roots"(i.e.,"Real") or your priorities or principles as a person and applying to a certain type of a event or Situation.

Example:

When Rodney was confronted by the police officer for speeding and driving recklessly,he had 2 choices. 1)Either get out of the vehicle and surrender to the police officers or 2)Confront the officers. He decided to "Keep it real" so he advances toward the officer, not knowing that the officers would tazer him and beat him to the ground. His actions leading up to the "LA Riots" Rodney is a perfect example of "Keepin it Real" but its also a good example of "When keepin it real goes wrong"

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(FR poster comment: Sooo... Rodney King refusing to surrender to the cops was just him "staying true to his roots"? Okay, I believe I see what the comments upthread meant about the destructiveness of this phrase. It's being used to cloak uncivilized and criminal behavior behind a "It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand..." excuse. I think.)

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2. Keepin it Real

n. keeping "the game" honest, whatever the game may be.

Wanda tried to maintain her composure when the man insulted her, but she decided to Keep it real

[RexBeach]

Thanks, Hammer. Best definition yet!

Just keepin’ it real.

Good Lord, this is all so idiotic, isn’t it? Its like leaning into a right cross, deliberately.

[Joe 6-pack]

Real American Rednecks love our dogs. They're our friends, in some cases, co-workers, dinner companions and we typically smell very much alike.

[PapaBear3625]

So the phrase means what?

In common usage, it seems to be "behave like an inner-city gangsta thug"

[Aquinasfan]

Civilization is very much an artificial construct.

Still not sure what you mean by that.

[Zionist Conspirator]

So if Vick’s a villain to PETA and a victim to the NAACP, what is he to their bastard offspring Al Sharpton???

[ClearCase_guy]

It's the difference between "The Lord of the Flies" and the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1783.

Man in a state of nature is uncontrolled, violent, and selfish. But in an advanced society, we establish rules and enforcement mechanisms that create a more harmonious environment in which to live. We make it. It's not something that springs out of thin air. It's a construct.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I am a redneck myself, and proudly so. I notice how this columnist - and this was a good column - was very quick to use the word redneck (in a derogatory way, of course) and he never mentioned the other word that is applicable here. Kind of funny how that goes, isn’t it.

I agree completely.

Besides, why do wealthy white liberals think that poor whites and poor Blacks are so different from one another? Wasn't the civil rights movement about us all being the same?

I'm still waiting for liberals to make fun of Black Fundamentalists.

[ReignOfError]

He drew a comparison to the “yankeefied wussification of America”, therefore, an alaogy was necessary.

Not really necessary. What you posted was not an analogy. And for the record, not everyone who uses the word "Yankee" or respects Southern culture uses that phrase to refer only to the years from 1861 to 1865.

I also thought it was pretty clear that when I used the phrase "yankeefied wussification" in the context of dogfighting, I wasn't endorsing that view. Not clear enough, I guess.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Someone must have put something in my drinking water.

This is a good article from PMSNBC. I even sensed David Robinson’s appearance before he was mentioned.

I was slightly disappointed that the author steered away from Kobe Bryant.