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Congressman Ron Paul on Home Schooling
The Covenant News ^ | July 27, 2007 | Ron Paul

Posted on 08/03/2007 10:26:52 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate

Dr. Ron Paul has been a consistent supporter of home schooling and educational freedom while serving in Congress. He has introduced several pieces of legislation which would return to parents the freedom to teach their children at home and in the manner they think best. Additionally, he has introduced bills that would provide tax credits for American families to help pay for education expenses. As President, Ron Paul will continue to fight for the rights of parents to provide their children with the knowledge and values they believe are most important.

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1 posted on 08/03/2007 10:26:55 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: CenTexConfederate

We don’t care what Ron Paul or anyone else says. The education and guidance of our children will continue, unabated. Don’t like it? Find yourself another country!!


2 posted on 08/03/2007 10:31:29 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: CenTexConfederate

Most homeschoolers I know don’t want tax credits for homeschooling. We believe tax credits will invite government oversight and regulation.


3 posted on 08/03/2007 10:32:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: davisfh

Care to expand? Who is ‘We’?


4 posted on 08/03/2007 10:33:35 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Tired of Taxes
You are hitting on something very vital.. Paul's bill, H.R. 935, is still the government telling you what you can spend your money on. The tax credit must go to some sort of education, be it school supplies (if you choose to go to public schools), private school tuition, or home school supplies...

Now, this isn't bad.. but it sure isn't the pure Constitutional way that Paul's supporters claim he follows.

The pure Constitutional approach would be for the government not to ask you what you are spending your money on, at that, require it be for specific things..

5 posted on 08/03/2007 10:39:14 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: mnehrling; CenTexConfederate

I just want to add that I’ve long agreed with Ron Paul on most (if not all) issues. This one sounds out of line with his other positions, but perhaps he’s being realistic. Funding for public school education probably won’t end nor be diminished - at least not in the near future - and I’d rather see tax credits than school vouchers.


6 posted on 08/03/2007 10:55:57 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

That’s the beauty of Tax Credits. You don’t have to take them. If the Government tries to regulate, give them up


7 posted on 08/03/2007 10:57:14 AM PDT by CenTexConfederate
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To: mnehrling
The pure Constitutional approach would be for the government not to ask you what you are spending your money on, at that, require it be for specific things..

The pure Constitutional approach would be for the US government to have no role whatsoever in education...and Ron Paul has called for abolishing the Department of Education...I don't think any other candidate of either party has done that

8 posted on 08/03/2007 10:57:54 AM PDT by uxbridge
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To: davisfh

>We don’t care what Ron Paul or anyone else says. The education and guidance of our children will continue, unabated. Don’t like it? Find yourself another country!!<

If that is the attitude of good Americans, (my)we have already found ourselves another country! The (your) “we” here must be a loyal memberS of the NEA, ACLU, PFAW, and the CPA.


9 posted on 08/03/2007 10:59:10 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: mnehrling

Now, this isn’t bad.. but it sure isn’t the pure Constitutional way that Paul’s supporters claim he follows.

Perhaps Dr. Paul realizes that returning to constiutional government isn’t going to happen this week so he’s trying to help homeschoolers the best way possible under existing law.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 11:20:24 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: WhiteGuy; Toddsterpatriot; Petronski
Thank you.. like I said, this isn’t a bad bill (I frankly agree with it..) I just find it odd when Paul chooses to fight for pure Constitutionalism.

He seems to enjoy parsing words and playing up the semantics over National Security issues, and yet he chooses this issue as one to give a little ground.. hmmm..

I wish when he was faced with choosing to support our going after a mad tyrant who continued to shoot at our planes, support terrorists and launch rockets are our allies, he would have been so accommodating.

11 posted on 08/03/2007 11:41:19 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: CJ Wolf; Paperdoll
Sorry that I was misunderstood. The "WE" is my wife of 51+ years and me. Our daughter (who is now 40 years of age) was the subject of very infrequent corporal punishment. I am seventy-one years of age and my wife is timeless.

To further elaborate our position on traditional life, there are no "tats" and there are no extraneous body piercings. The only piercings that were permitted in this family were those required to support an attractive pair of earrings (that necessarily excludes me, of course). Our daughter has taken her family on a late-summer vacation to the Grand Canyon. She, her husband and their son have, in the grand American tradition, worked the entire summer while making life better for themselves and others - a great American tradition which many continue to refuse to understand. When our daughter returns, it will be to a thriving law practice which she enjoys the ownership of. The lesson here is, spank your children when they need it but, don't brutalize them. You'd be surprised at how well they turn out.

12 posted on 08/03/2007 12:21:58 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: CJ Wolf; Paperdoll
Sorry that I was misunderstood. The "WE" is my wife of 51+ years and me. Our daughter (who is now 40 years of age) was the subject of very infrequent corporal punishment. I am seventy-one years of age and my wife is timeless.

To further elaborate our position on traditional life, there are no "tats" and there are no extraneous body piercings. The only piercings that were permitted in this family were those required to support an attractive pair of earrings (that necessarily excludes me, of course). Our daughter has taken her family on a late-summer vacation to the Grand Canyon. She, her husband and their son have, in the grand American tradition, worked the entire summer while making life better for themselves and others - a great American tradition which many continue to refuse to understand. When our daughter returns, it will be to a thriving law practice which she enjoys the ownership of. The lesson here is, spank your children when they need it but, don't brutalize them. You'd be surprised at how well they turn out.

13 posted on 08/03/2007 12:22:13 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: CenTexConfederate

That fruitloop couldn’t get anything passed.
(Not that it’s a bad idea)


14 posted on 08/03/2007 12:25:23 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 ("Fred for Prez in 08'")
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To: davisfh

Sounds like a nice nuclear family. But what does this have to do with the leftist indoctrination going on in the public schools? I raised great children, too, and they were disciplined, but I had to offset much of what they brought home from school. Too many parents today are either unaware, or do not care. Very sad. And I say that having one daughter who taught for over twenty years, and was a principal for ten, now serving in administration. She has been made well aware, so is not one of those brainwashing the kids.


15 posted on 08/03/2007 12:57:27 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: CenTexConfederate
Homeschooling is not the purview of the Federal Govt. anyway. It is usually handled by the States. In MA, for example, the right of parents to 'otherwise educate' their children was upheld in two different cases heard before the Supreme Judicial Court of the Commonwealth. Those decisions give each district the authority to create requirements for the families homeschooling in that district, but it places limits on what can be demanded of them.

What a Presidential candidate has to say about it may give an indication of how he perceives the rights of parents, but it has no official bearing one way or the other. The less the Federal Govt. has to do with it, the better, in my opinion.

16 posted on 08/03/2007 1:02:47 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Tired of Taxes

I’m opposed to private school vouchers, which would invite government interference, but not to tax credits. There are tax credits for teachers who to buy school supplies, but not for homeschoolers. There are tax credits to pay someone else to watch your child, but not for moms who stay home and watch their own.

Ideally, I’d like to see a national sales tax and the complete abolition of the social engineering of the current tax system, but in the mean time, I’ll take every tax credit I can get to help defray the costs of being a stay-at-home, homeschooling mom.


17 posted on 08/03/2007 1:35:10 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Paperdoll

Sounds as thought you had great success in childrearing,
Paperdoll. Happily, our daughter finished her high school education at a Catholic Girl’s School. Had that not been the case, the outcome might have been entirely different.


18 posted on 08/03/2007 3:10:18 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: mnehrling
"The pure Constitutional approach would be for the government not to ask you what you are spending your money on,"

Excellent point! and I agree completely.

Now I would like you to expand your thinking just a little, and grant the posibility that in order to change the way in which federal dollars are now allocated toward education, that it might be necessary to effect the change incrementally over time. Baby steps, as it were.

Now before you claim this is just me weasling, let me remind you that we are under nearly a constant barrage of similar sentiment regarding the election of POTUS.

I remember how it went: "Let's elect someone we can "work with", and just try to get some measure of progress, because we can't possibly expect to get everything all at once."

Sound familiar?

19 posted on 08/03/2007 7:16:58 PM PDT by Designer
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To: davisfh
We don’t care what Ron Paul or anyone else says. The education and guidance of our children will continue, unabated.

"WE?" - Please don't presume to speak for me.

"Unabated?" - Don't think for a minute that the Federal Government won't take control of home schooling if we give it the opportunity.

20 posted on 08/03/2007 7:22:48 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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