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'Abortion rights' and the moral threat to freedom [Alan Keyes
RenewAmerica.us ^ | July 30, 2007 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 08/03/2007 11:06:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance

goldstategop is a shill for Giuliani.


21 posted on 08/03/2007 12:54:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: EternalVigilance
None of the above

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Good grief. Run, Fred, run!

22 posted on 08/03/2007 1:00:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Tactically, I agree with you. Fred Thompson is serving the practical purpose of taking down extreme liberals like Giuliani and Romney. Hallelujah.

But, there is no disputing Dr. Keyes’ points about Mr. Thompson’s Stephen Douglas-like position vis a vis the personhood of the unborn and their inalienable right to life. Alan nailed it.


23 posted on 08/03/2007 1:03:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats??)
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To: EternalVigilance

Riiight. Except FRed IS pro life.


24 posted on 08/03/2007 1:05:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Fred Thompson is out of step with the Reagan Republican pro-life platform and its call for Fourteenth Amendment application of the protection of the right to life for all PERSONS, including the unborn.

In 1996, Mr. Thompson made it clear that he has no use for that platform, or any platform for that matter.

Want me to dig up the quotes?


25 posted on 08/03/2007 1:09:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats??)
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To: EternalVigilance

Shove your quotes. His solid pro life record shows otherwise.


26 posted on 08/03/2007 1:11:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

That's the Republican platform. Thompson disagrees with it in more ways than one.

27 posted on 08/03/2007 1:14:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats??)
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To: EternalVigilance

B/S.


28 posted on 08/03/2007 1:16:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: EternalVigilance

He does not want to criminalize it to this day. I have no idea what that means.


29 posted on 08/03/2007 1:17:53 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: EternalVigilance; pissant
none of the candidates being promoted for the Republican presidential nomination by the media touts and unprincipled party money bags represents a commitment to constitutional moral principle consistent with the party's heritage

Whatever one thinks of Dr. Keyes, he nails it here...

30 posted on 08/03/2007 4:37:27 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: EternalVigilance

Keyes is brilliant and correct on every issue that relates to our nation and its future.

It is very unfortunate that principled men like these can never reach the top office of our nation.


31 posted on 08/03/2007 6:08:39 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: eleni121; WalterSkinner

Some do. Seldom happens, but it has in our past and can this time as well.


32 posted on 08/03/2007 7:45:14 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: eleni121
Keyes is brilliant and correct on every issue that relates to our nation and its future.

Keyes bump.

33 posted on 08/03/2007 9:22:13 PM PDT by vox_freedom
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To: All; fetal heart beats by 21st day

“I am looking for the BEST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, AND THAT CANDIDATE IS DUNCAN HUNTER.”

You said it!

Here’s a letter to the editor that I sent to both secular and religious newspapers. Even though I am supporting Duncan Hunter, I included Sam Brownback to be fair, since it is about the life issue:

“Dear Editor:

While most of the Republican presidential candidates are pro-life to one degree or another, and some have perfect or near perfect pro-life voting records, I feel that Senator Sam Brownback and Congressman Duncan Hunter have the highest commitment to the pro-life cause, from conception to natural death.

While listening on EWTN radio, I heard both Sam Brownback and Duncan Hunter speak at the pro-life rally in Washington, D.C.

And year after year, Duncan Hunter has tried to get legislation passed with the bill he authored, the personhood-at-conception bill that has over 100 co-sponsors, which would define personhood as moment of conception, so, it would allow us to have a reversal of the effects of Roe v. Wade without a constitutional amendment.

Sam Brownback is constantly a loud and frequent voice for preborn and disabled voiceless persons.

During the first Republican debate, Sam Brownback and Duncan Hunter both said it was right for the U.S. Congress to intervene to save Terri Schiavo’s life.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Mitt Romney said that the U.S. Congress should not have stepped in to help Terri Schiavo.

And, sadly, as mayor, Rudy Giuliani, when speaking to NARAL in 2001 said: “..we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger ..,” and former Mayor Giuliani has a history of appointing left-leaning judges when mayor of NYC, including a pro-abortion supporter.

It absolutely does matter whom we elect for president reagrding the life issue, because the president picks the judicial nominees, and other examples are when former President Clinton vetoed the ban on partial-birth infanticide, and overturned the Mexico City policy, where U.S. tax dollars would be given to organizations that perform or promote abortion in foreign countries.”


34 posted on 08/03/2007 9:37:33 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks for this post. Mr. Keyes is absolutely brilliant.


35 posted on 08/04/2007 5:40:54 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Sun

Great letter, Sun.

Some people seem to think it is an abuse of power when the government steps in to save someon’e life.

That is the purpose of gov’t.

I read the documents and looked at the xrays, and listened to the nurse’s who testified that Teri was making progress, and the creep, after he got the money, did nothing but prevent her from getting further treatment.

Everything, from her initial suspicious “collapse,” to the missing xrays that showed long-term physical abuse, with bones in various healing stages, to her friend’s testimony thatTeri planned to leave her “husband” the week after she collapsed,to the judge, nursing home, and attorney collusion,the entire case screamed for objective justice.

But, she did not get it. Too many people saw their own life decisions reflected in the case, and did not like the image.

Each one of us may, someday, be in Terri’s position. If we do not assert the necessity of defending all innocent human life, why should we expect anyone to defend us?

By the way, which of the presidential candidates, besides Hunter and Brownback, have attended the March for Life?

As anyone on the east coast knows, anyone who is prolife, and lives near DC , attends the March For Life.


36 posted on 08/04/2007 6:46:46 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue-it is the business of all humanity.)
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To: vetsvette
He’s [Keyes] what we need in a President

snicker

37 posted on 08/04/2007 9:41:02 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

I delved in Terri’s case, too, and called Jeb Bush, Charlie Crist, et all over and over, and some people on this thread who lived in Florida, demonstrated over and over at the hospice to save Terri. I’m proud to know these warriers for life!

One of the warriers for Terri, who fought for her life, T’wit, just passed away, and if you haven’t heard about it, I’ll send you the link. We feel so sad about his death.


38 posted on 08/04/2007 5:36:38 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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Regarding Terri’s care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael’s girlfriend 1 1/2 years after Terri was hurt, Michael Schiavo said:

“How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this.”


39 posted on 08/04/2007 5:37:52 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

Brownback and Hunter were the only presidential candidates to attend the pro-life march, but it is possible that some of the others had conflicts of interest that day.

btw, Rep. Mike Pence and other Republicans attended, as well, who were not presidential nominees.


40 posted on 08/04/2007 5:40:16 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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