Posted on 08/04/2007 5:09:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
Dittos.
They play “rip the throat out and worry about the body later.”
Our side plays: “wanna be friends? :-))”
The Speaker did not wait for the clerk to hand him the tally prior to announcing the results of the vote.
There, fixed.
I’v known Mike McNulty for a few years - he is a bit of a pest...
But think what you may about the Democrats. All credit for their shenanigans and traitorous activities goes directly to the "American" voter.I used quotatin marks around American because I do not believe that any true American, knowing what the Democrat Party stands for, would vote for a Democrat. Without the fools and idiots that vote for and elect them, the Demcrats could do nothing. In closing, the Democrats are what they are. They cannot help being that. That is all they are. It is the fools and idiots that elect and re elect them that are the problem.>
Yes, but what happens when they break them? There has to be an objective enforcement procedure or else you'd never know if a a bill passed.
You cannot say according to the rule the vote was 215-213 but it wasn't.
Decisions (Senate deliberations for instance) have to be made in accordance to what is on record.
These House Dems made a mess for themselves and the Pubs ought to run with it in every venue they can. As far as I can see, the only solution for the Dems is to bring the bill back for another vote in accordance to what the procedures are for doing so.
I guess they can ship it to the Senate as is and try to get what they want in committee but that would give the Pubs in the Senate a chance to have some fun.
Agreed. The GOP has a propensity that we can win fair and square. Unfortunately the RATS never bother themselves with the law or fairness. 08 is going to suck unless the GOP goes gloves off.
the no cajones republicans should try to get in front of every lib/dem msm camera and shout out what the lib/dems did in the house and what the vote entailed.....
appropriation of welfare funding to reduce costs for illegals housing and living expenses!!!!
this is what the lib/dems are fighting for.....
selling out american taxpayers and fighting for illegals!!!!!
Did Howie also promise to make the trains run on time?
“selling out american taxpayers and fighting for illegals.”
they are not fighting for illegals. they are obnoxious, psychotic, communist revolutionaries who are fighting for any and all maneuvers that will coalesce power for them in any way, shape or form and the “american electorate” will willingly watch them wrest power in any way possible.
(democrat/communist indcotrination and propaganda have been very successful.)
Bears repeating, bttp, and some righteous wrath. If the shoe were on the other foot this would be the Second Coming of Watergate.
TR7, thanks for the link. I didn’t see that story. It is good to see and I will go and follow the thread but it is a bigger issue partywide.
Your assessment is correct, but if the shoe were on the other foot, multiple lawsuits would be flying around by now.
When Democrats are losing, their solution is to change the rules. Just like in the 2000 Presidential election. They almost got away with that one.
Every time almost they get away with another one, Democrats become more emboldened. They hope for precedent rulings in their favor. All it takes is one favorable ruling. Only the Supreme Court stands in their way. And given the opportunity, Democrats will stack the court in their favor.
How can we resore order when the electorate is so blind to the re-election of those DemoRat degenerates?
Damaging info against the rats is irrelevant. Without MSM friends, facts are never considered. Only the repeated lies gain momentum.
These are some things we have to work on aggressively and without haste if we want to preserve our republic and our freedom.
This is the most clear explanation I’ve heard or read on the matter.
The Democratic Party is a criminal enterprise.
What happened in the House is abominable and illegal. It appears that the vote demonstrated that we are not living in under the rule of law, but a dictatorship of the congressional leadership. It appears that the Democrats tried to pull a fast one by gaveling the vote shut to prevent the Republicans from winning, but the vote tally changed a second before a he gavelled the meeting to a close. Thus when he closed the voting the Republicans had won, and no further vote counting was allowed. The Democrats appear to have gone through some shady dealings by erasing the computer record of the vote. It is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS and justice needs to be given here.
However as for the enforcing of the rules of the House, only a majority of each chamber of Congress can judge the validity of its own votes or its rules for that matter. It is a feature of our constitution which guarantees the independence of each branch of government (separation of powers) from an outside entity. The bottom line is that whatever a majority of either chamber says is the LAW of the chamber is the LAW of the chamber. If a majority of Congress challenged this illegal, and egregious violation of rules and democratic process which we saw last night, then the decision of the majority overrides the decision of the chair. However, the vote is so close that the Democrats can probably strong arm enough of it majority to prevent that from happening unless there is a huge outcry from the public at large.
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