Posted on 08/05/2007 7:51:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
“We also need term limits, and limits on the power of the unelected Congressional staffers”
That’s true, but even more than that, we need limits and very pricise job descriptions on the bureaucrats. Until we can get them under control, it’s just going to keep getting worse.
It worked for me. But, right now, all you get at the web site is a plea for money.”
Maybe because that’s what it takes to get the job done. This has aleady cost me a little over $12,000 and I am not a charitable institution. Unless some other people put money in the pot, it just ain’t gonna happen.
It’s up to you.
IMHO this site needs a touch of professionalism and clarity of purpose.”
You will please note that I said “a few extra dollar” in “honor of,” not “for.” My point is that by allowing this government to go this far we have, essentially, betrayed the men who spilled their blood on our beahalf, and, as stated, it’s time to make amends.
As for being “professional?” As I recall, the Declaration of Independence and Constitution were hand printed on parchment, straightforward, simple statements of purpose.And that’s what is on the web page. No bells, whistles, swooping eagles, just a simple, straighforward statement of the problem and the proposed solution.
Because you had the courtesy to send me an email, I sent you a copy of the plan. For the people who have read it, it seems to be split into three camps
1.Those who believe it will work.
2. Those who don’t think it will.
3. Those who are afraid it will.
If you fall into number 1, get aboard.
If you fall into number 2, you’re in line with about 2/3 of the people who thought Thomas Jefferson and those other idiots who signed the Declaration of Independence were looking at nothing more than a short trip on a tight rope, because, obviously, it won’t work.
I don’t think you fall into number 3. Incidentally, from the feedback I get, those in Number 1 are leading.
The choice is yours.
That’s the conventional wisdom, that it can’t be done because there’s no way the Senators will give up their hot tub. So, when the front door is blocked, barred and bolted, go in the back door and that’s what we’re doing. The second principle, much like the first, came from a shoulder patch I saw on a U.S. fighter pilot —”When you’re losing the game, change the rules.” That too is what we’re doing. So, if you’re curious as to how this works, send me an email and I’ll send you a copy of the plan.
You may say this statement is ridiculous, but think about it. The House of Representatives is elected directly by the people the way it was intended by our founders. No State government influence or say in who gets elected. Representatives are accountable to and serve at the will of the people.
After the 17th, State Legislatures have no say or representation in Washington. Both Senators and Representatives are accountable directly to the people, not state government. What makes it even worse is that Senators don't represent small compact districts with their own interests like the House members do. Instead of representing say, an agricultural district, or an industrial district, a white, black or Hispanic district, Senators have to prostitute themselves statewide over all interests. The only way they can do this is by way of pork. Big pork barrel projects that will get them elected state-wide. Guess who pays for all this pork.
State government has to hire lobbyists such as the National Conference of State Legislators, or the National Governors Association, or private lobbyists to name a few. They stand in line with their hats in their hands behind all the other thousand of lobbyists like big oil, the tobacco lobby, the pharmaceutical lobby, etc. to try to influence their Senators. The problem is that the State lobbies don't have BIG BUCKS like the other lobbies do.
This is wrong. This is not the way it was intended to be. You may not trust your state Legislature, but do you trust big business and political action committees that fund multi-million dollar Senate campaigns more? (Don't get me wrong, I support free enterprise and capitalism 100%, however, big multinational corporations should not be running our country for their own benefit at the expense of the people. The amnesty bill is a prime example.)
We need to go back to the way things were. Do you think that Trent Lott and others were representing their states during the Immigration amnesty vote? Hell no! But Trent will get re-elected because of his seniority. If State Legislators sent Senators to Washington, they could also call them home and replace them. Do you think the federal government would ever impose unfunded mandates on the states again? Remember, the federal government is supposed to act for the benefit of the States and do what the States cannot do on their own individually.
My 2 cents for what it is worth.
It’s not up to us to decide. That is something that will have to be worked out between the Legislatures and the Senate post-repeal. We do not have an agenda, except to get the bureaucracy under control, not only in size, but in the way they do things.
We hope to make it a part of the amendment required to repeal the 17th, but it may not be possible to require Congress, after there are 51 Legislature appointed Senators seated, to create a national Ombudsman which would take over the review of new regulations, appeals on infranctions and be charged with the responsibility to keep the bureaucrats on track.
The current mess is the result of ‘democracy’ in action.
That’s exactly what it is, so come aboard.
The special interest groups that want illegal immigration also have less clout since the senators do not have to raise money for campaigns. The states and cities and counties are the ones dealing with the problems of unchecked illegal immigration, they are already screaming to the state legislators to do something about it.
Would you Freepmail me the plan, too?
Sing along: "I'm proud to be an American, where at least I'm told I'm free"....
Your posting was informative and made a lot sense.Gave me a different viewpoint on the subject,thanks !!!
The Founders designed a Constitutional Republic to avoid the emotional mob rule facet of democracy and promoted states rights to (among other reasons) keep the government closer to the local citizens. A brilliant plan.
The 17th was a major step away from those plans, and it appears we are in danger of losing the Republic, in spite of Franklin's caution.
Massive unaccountable bureaucracies have expanded into state and even large local governments as well. Can this be reversed? The task is daunting and heavily opposed, but illumination and ROAR can certainly help inform those who will see the issue.
Sacking the 17th may well be effective in restoring a balance of power to the small states and the people.
Would you Freepmail me the plan, too?
I don’ t know how this system works. I just signed on this morning. Send my an email to RepealThe17th@aol.com and I’ll get it right back to you.
Sterling Saunders
This has long been the commentary of conservatives. That it all went wrong after the 17th.
Good food for thought and thanks for the ping!
Save.
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