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Perceptions of Iraq War Are Starting to Shift
Townhall.com ^ | August 6, 2007 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/05/2007 9:50:17 PM PDT by gpapa

It's not often that an opinion article shakes up Washington and changes the way a major issue is viewed. But that happened last week, when The New York Times printed an opinion article by Brookings Institution analysts Michael O'Hanlon and Ken Pollack on the progress of the surge strategy in Iraq.

Yes, progress. O'Hanlon and Pollack supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003 -- Pollack even wrote a book urging the overthrow of Saddam Hussein -- but they have sharply criticized military operations there in the ensuing years.

"As two analysts who have harshly criticized the Bush administration's miserable handling of Iraq," they wrote, "we were surprised by the gains we saw and the potential to produce not necessarily 'victory,' but a sustainable stability that both we and the Iraqis could live with."

Their bottom line: "There is enough good happening on the battlefields of Iraq today that Congress should plan on sustaining the effort at least into 2008."

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barone; iraq; perceptions; pollsoniraq; progress; success; surge

1 posted on 08/05/2007 9:50:24 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

There are hints in the polls that people are noticing this as well.

Given the level, morale and condition of ALL our troops, it’s hard to imagine any comparison to Vietnam. Congress may have to drop that song soon.


2 posted on 08/05/2007 9:55:10 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Wiseghy

“Given the level, morale and condition of ALL our troops, it’s hard to imagine any comparison to Vietnam. Congress may have to drop that song soon.”

Liberals are good at changing their tune...well, atleast their politicians.


3 posted on 08/05/2007 9:57:40 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Wiseghy

“Given the level, morale and condition of ALL our troops, it’s hard to imagine any comparison to Vietnam. “

Back in Vietnam, did the troops have any perception of what an enemy they had in the media?


4 posted on 08/05/2007 9:59:32 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Back in Vietnam, did the troops have any perception of what an enemy they had in the media?

I distinctly recall my father (USAF Officer) cursing Walter Cronkite in terms that would have made a Sailor blush, and a Marine beam with admiration. So he was aware ... and I grew up with a profound distrust of what we now call the MSM. Can't speak for other folks.

5 posted on 08/05/2007 10:06:19 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: gpapa
Anybody watch these guys, O'Hanlon and Pollack, on Fox News Sunday today?

They're both Hillary supporters. Or at least O'Hanlon is. He was upfront about that to Chris Wallace, while Pollack was cagey but didn't exactly deny it.

Now this doesn't mean I doubt their earnestness, or the truthfulness of the facts they report. But their backing Hillary makes me wonder if at least part of their motivation is to smooth the way for Hillary's more "moderate" views on the war (moderate as compared to Kos crazies) amongst Democrat voters.

6 posted on 08/05/2007 10:10:23 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: gpapa

I really hope that the opinion shift is real, not some seasonal numbers. If it is, it’s actually sad that the opinion shifted mostly because two liberal authors wrote a positive assesment in NYT.


7 posted on 08/05/2007 10:12:55 PM PDT by paudio
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To: gpapa

God forbide they use the v word without the quotes.


8 posted on 08/05/2007 10:37:09 PM PDT by CT102ndInfSister
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To: gpapa

As things keep improving, don’t be surprised to see Liberals claim it was due to their forcing Bush’s hand to take stronger actions.

They’ll claim it was their intent all along.


9 posted on 08/05/2007 10:53:51 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
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To: gpapa

bookmark


10 posted on 08/05/2007 11:07:10 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: gpapa
Bad news for the Democrats. Success in Iraq would leave their front-runner without an issue in 2008 and a ton of statements indicating how much the Democrats wanted America to lose badly. That's their nightmare scenario. The Bush Administration looking good is the last thing they want heading into a presidential election year.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 08/06/2007 12:44:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DakotaRed

The DemRat talking point is that there has been NO CHANGE. That Bush is pursuing a failed policy in a failed war and that the DemRats in Congress will move heaven and earth to try to force him to change aka pull out and admit defeat because he has refused to change. Just wondering how they get from THERE to what you are suggesting.


12 posted on 08/06/2007 1:08:41 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: gpapa
...if others come to see things as O'Hanlon and Pollack have, Democrats could find themselves trapped between a base that wants retreat and defeat, and a majority that wants victory.

The problem for the Democrats is that their base (who want retreat and defeat) will select their nominees and the majority of Americans (who want victory) will select the winner of the election.

13 posted on 08/06/2007 2:53:05 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: gpapa

The scum on the left just don’t know how to deal with the truth.


14 posted on 08/06/2007 4:25:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The Islamists plan to kill us.The Democrats and the ratmedia are helping them. Ft Dix proves it!)
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To: gpapa

Two things have become obvious to the MSM lately. One, Hillary is going to be the Rat nominee. Two, she’s going to be the nominee without apologizing for voting for the Iraq war. Therefore, the Iraq war itself (but not its mismanagement) needs to be taken off the table as an issue. It was left there for the benefit of Obama, whose strange lurches from dove to hawk to dove again have shown the Democrats and their media supporters that he’s not ready for prime time.


15 posted on 08/06/2007 4:44:46 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Wiseghy

What a co-inky-dink!

Things are going reasonably well in Iraq right now, and suddenly the slanted anti-Repub press has gone silent on news from that country.

No (mainstream) stories about declining US casualty rates.

No (mainstream) stories about reconciliation between various tribal leaders and the US military.


16 posted on 08/06/2007 4:47:32 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: MojoWire

“Democrats could find themselves trapped between a base that wants retreat and defeat, and a majority that wants victory.”

You reep what you sow. Dems look like the biggest bunch or sell-out cowards. They are now in the position of rooting fro defeat.


17 posted on 08/06/2007 7:13:03 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: MojoWire

“Democrats could find themselves trapped between a base that wants retreat and defeat, and a majority that wants victory.”

You reep what you sow. Dems look like the biggest bunch or sell-out cowards. They are now in the position of rooting for defeat.


18 posted on 08/06/2007 7:13:12 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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