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A Less Ambitious Approach to Immigration
Washington Post ^ | August 6, 2007 | Arlen Specter

Posted on 08/06/2007 6:12:22 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

The charge of amnesty defeated comprehensive immigration reform in the Senate this summer. It is too important, and there has been too much legislative investment, not to try again....

Certainly the government should implement the provisions it has already enacted to improve border security and crack down on employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. But the important additions on those subjects contained in the bill defeated in June will not be enacted without also dealing with the 12 million-plus undocumented immigrants and the guest worker program...

There is a consensus in Congress on most objectives and many remedies for immigration reform: more border patrols, additional fencing, drones and some form of a guest worker program... Yet Congress is unlikely to appropriate $3 billion for border security without dealing simultaneously with the illegal immigrants already here.

The main objective in legalizing the 12 million was to eliminate their fugitive status, allowing them to live in the United States without fear of being detected and deported or being abused by unscrupulous employers... Give these people the company of their spouses and minor children and consider other indicators of citizenship short of the right to vote (which was always the dealbreaker)...

But such a compromise is clearly better than leaving these people a fugitive class...

Giving these people green-card status leaves open the opportunity for them to return to their native lands and seek citizenship through regular channels. Or, after our borders are secured and tough employer sanctions have been put in place, Congress can revisit the issue and possibly find a more hospitable America....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist
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What is it about the word "no" that the Senator doesn't understand? He is stuck on the same stupid he was stuck on the month of July. He is telling us that he is going to try and try again to impose amnesty on us, until he gets his way, despite the wishes of the American people. We have been warned.
1 posted on 08/06/2007 6:12:24 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
Pray for America and its helpless citizens and their children, who remain at risk
from murder, rape, manslaughter, and terror, due to the utter incompetence of a traitorous Congress.


2 posted on 08/06/2007 6:15:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: 3AngelaD
The main objective in legalizing the 12 million was to eliminate their fugitive status, allowing them to live in the United States without fear of being detected and deported or being abused by unscrupulous employers...

How can you be this dumb and still have the ability to fog a mirror? What you have is 12 million people who entered this country illegally and broke the law. They have no rights in this country, and surely have no claim to any of the benefits extended to its citizens. They ARE fugitives, you idiot! They broke the law...that's why they are called illegals. I really don't care how long they've managed to escape the law, they do not belong here and they should be sent back as they are discovered.

4 posted on 08/06/2007 6:19:33 AM PDT by econjack
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To: 3AngelaD

Now we see why Pres. Bush campaigned for this RINO, at the expense of Toomey, a conservative. Specter is on the President’s team.


5 posted on 08/06/2007 6:19:33 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: 3AngelaD
Giving these people green-card status leaves open the opportunity for them to return to their native lands and seek citizenship through regular channels.

People with green cards qualify for all sorts of government benefits.

Mayor Barletta for PA Senator!

6 posted on 08/06/2007 6:27:21 AM PDT by freespirited (Thank you for not lying about Republicans.)
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To: 3AngelaD

We need to be saved from the Senator Arlen Specters.


7 posted on 08/06/2007 6:32:30 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: 3AngelaD

U.S. Congress = America’s most entrenched “Criminal Class!!!”


8 posted on 08/06/2007 6:35:14 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: 3AngelaD
Too bad our leaders do not want to just enforce our existing laws. It is an outrage and I will never forgive them for it.

I like what Ike did about the illegals, and that should and could be done again.

9 posted on 08/06/2007 6:38:10 AM PDT by Brandie (Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter in 08')
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arlen, it is legal vs illegal. There is a difference, arlen. If you, arlen, do not understand the difference between legal and illegal arlen, you are unfit to serve. arlen....you are beginning to anger US.


10 posted on 08/06/2007 6:39:07 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: 3AngelaD

Our nation has been sold out by inept politicians for years. Let’s face it,the illegal problem will never be solved...Millions of them are here to stay.

We are being blind sided by the Third World. Our country is being taken away from us by coniving,mostly liberal, democratic politicians.. It’s all about votes, folks!

Liberal democrats don’t believe in Democracy, Their God is Socialism or worse..Third Worlders want handouts, they want to be controled and taken care of by the Government.They are all gonna vote Democrat,
and suck at the public trough...

Bubba and his Incubus from Hell know this! What we are seeing now is the decline and fall of the Republican Party. The Republicans showed what they are made of by trying to sneak this amnesty bill through...They have no balls anymore and are turning into some kind of hybrid, politicaly correct,species of Democrat....

I’ll go out and vote for them one more time just to keep The Incubus from getting elected, however it will be like shoveling you know what against the tide though...

I feel sorry for all young people who will have to live under thse two dogs, once they get elected again though..


11 posted on 08/06/2007 6:42:37 AM PDT by Old Phone Man (ks)
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arlen, it is legal vs illegal. There is a difference, arlen. If you, arlen, do not understand the difference between legal and illegal arlen, you are unfit to serve. arlen....you are beginning to anger US.

Arlen is a one-time U.S. attorney. Yet, he doesn't understand the distinction.

Explains a lot of things...

12 posted on 08/06/2007 6:46:49 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 3AngelaD
The main objective in legalizing the 12 million was to eliminate their fugitive status, allowing them to live in the United States without fear of being detected and deported

Uh, no. It's not. It's getting them back home and making sure they don't come back.
13 posted on 08/06/2007 6:49:04 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan; He's the second coming of Dole.)
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To: okie01

or this points to something else....


14 posted on 08/06/2007 6:49:30 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: kittymyrib
Now we see why Pres. Bush campaigned for this RINO, at the expense of Toomey, a conservative. Specter is on the President’s team.

And remember all those stupid partisans on here almost demanding that conservatives hold their nose and vote for this traitor when Bush put him over the top against Toomey? How did that work out? Never forget. No more RINOs.
15 posted on 08/06/2007 6:50:49 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan; He's the second coming of Dole.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Yet Congress is unlikely to appropriate $3 billion for border security without dealing simultaneously with the illegal immigrants already here.

And why is this? Not that congress shouldn't, let's say, do the WILL OF THE PEOPLE or anything, just throwing it out there.

How SOB arrogant are these jewels in America's House of Lords? I mean....congress...that body of people elected to do OUR bidding, well they're not likely to appropriate money for border security until YOU, you peons of the highest order, agree that we shall grant all the illegals here amnesty.

It is our bidding and WE, the Lords of the Senate, know what is best for you.

I must spit.

16 posted on 08/06/2007 6:58:02 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: freespirited

Exactly. Once you legalize the status of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens, you imbue them with rights, including family reunification thru chain migration. Taking citizenship off of the table does not solve the problem and providing them with legal status makes it far worse.


17 posted on 08/06/2007 7:03:52 AM PDT by kabar
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“Yet Congress is unlikely to appropriate $3 billion for border security without dealing simultaneously with the illegal immigrants already here.”

Then, we'll just have to have a new Congress, won't we, Arlen, ol' buddy, ol' pal?

18 posted on 08/06/2007 7:07:50 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: econjack

As Tallyrand said of the Bourbon Kings, “They have learned nothing, and they have forgotten nothing.” Specter learned nothing, and remains committed to amnesty and open borders.


19 posted on 08/06/2007 7:11:59 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
"It would be refreshing if Congress, and the country, could come together in a bipartisan way to at least partially solve one of the big domestic issues of the day."

Uhh, Arlen - the country - all 300 million of them save the KOS component, the Chamber of Commerce, and the liberal Democrats - have come together in a bipartisan way and don't want amnesty and don't want illegals here, period!

It is only you and a handful of the elite who need to come together and join the American people, not the Beltway insiders and profiteers.

Moron.

20 posted on 08/06/2007 7:18:01 AM PDT by oldbill
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