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Edmund Fitzgerald life ring found
WOOD TV 8 (Grand Rapids) ^ | Tuesday, August 7, 2007 | Rachael Ruiz

Posted on 08/07/2007 10:24:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: Nomorjer Kinov

I saw a documentary, a year or two ago, on Nat’l Geographic or the History Channel, theorizing why she split in two. It was very interesting.


21 posted on 08/08/2007 3:26:19 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: DB

Mrs. RushLake, Amy RushLake, and I visited the Whitefish Point Lighthouse museum north of Paradise, Michigan last summer (again) and took the time to sit thru the taped presentation of the event featuring the survivors and the Lightfoot song in the background. It really grips you, hard.


22 posted on 08/08/2007 3:39:39 AM PDT by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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To: TFFKAMM

Lightfoot had a lot of good tunes although Fitzgerald is certainly his most haunting. Canadian Railroad Trilogy is another great one about the opening up of the continent to the railway.....

There was a time in this fair land when the railroad did not run,
when the wild majestic mountains stood alone against the sun.
Long before the white man and long before the wheel,
then the green dark forest was too silent to be real.
But time has no beginnings and history has no bounds
as to this verdant country they came from all around.
They sailed upon her waterways and they walked the forests tall,
built the mines the mills and the factories for the good of us all.
And when the young man’s fancy was turning to the spring,
the railroad men grew restless for to hear the hammers ring.
Their minds were overflowing with the visions of their day
and many a fortune lost and won and many a debt to pay.

For they looked in the future and what did they see,
they saw an iron road running from the sea to the sea.
Bringing the goods to a young growing land, all up through the seaports and into their hands.
Look away said they across this mighty land, from the Eastern Shore to the western strand.
Bring in the workers and bring up the rails, we gotta lay down the tracks and tear up the trails.
Open her heart let the lifeblood flow, gotta get on our way ‘cause we’re moving too slow.
Bring in the workers and bring up the rails,
we’re gonna lay down the tracks and tear up the trails.
Open her heart let the lifeblood flow, gotta get on our way ‘cause we’re moving too slow.
Get on our way ‘cause we’re moving too slow.

Behind the blue Rockies the sun is declining the stars, they come stealing at the close of the day.
Across the wide prairie our loved ones lie sleeping beyond the dark oceans in a place far away.
We are the Navvies who work upon the railway, swinging our hammers in the bright blazing sun,
living on stew and drinking bad whiskey, bending our old backs ‘til the long days are done.
We are the Navvies who work upon the railway, swinging our hammers in the bright blazing sun.
Laying down track and building the bridges, bending our backs till the railroad is done.

So over the mountains and over the plains into the muskeg and into the rain,
up the St. Lawrence all the way to Gaspe, swinging our hammers and drawing our pay.
Driving ‘em in and tying ‘em down away to the bunkhouse and into the town.
A dollar a day and a place for my head, a drink to the living and a toast to the dead.
Oh, the song of the future has been sung, all the battles have been won,
o’er the mountain tops we stand, all the world at our command,
we have opened up the soil with our teardrops and our toil.

There was a time in this fair land when the railroad did not run,
when the wild majestic mountains stood alone against the sun.
Long before the white man and long before the wheel,
then the green dark forest was too silent to be real.
Then the green dark forest was too silent to be real.
And many are the dead men too silent to be real.


23 posted on 08/08/2007 4:03:42 AM PDT by xp38
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To: I slam Islam
I would really like to know WHERE EXACTLY on the Keweenaw Peninsula he found it.

The article states that it was found near the Keweenaw Peninsula. That puts it somewhere east or west of the Portage Canal or anywhere between Marquette and Ontonogin excluding the Keweenaw.

24 posted on 08/08/2007 4:10:48 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s a great song! And a cool story too!


25 posted on 08/08/2007 4:14:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: woofer

......The Freddie was the smallest boat.....

“Paddle to the Sea” was probably the smallest.


26 posted on 08/08/2007 4:26:23 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: dawn53
I caught that one also. FYI...there's a new theory, that a "rogue wave" hit the ship, either capsized her immediately, or caused the cargo to shift, so that she went over. Seems that new satellite studies have conclusively shown that the Great Lakes can and do produced huge "50ft+" high rogue waves.

They are going back and reviewing reports of all sudden, unexplained ship sinking around the world...and there seems to be a high correlation to conditions that can generate these monster waves.

27 posted on 08/08/2007 4:41:55 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: SunkenCiv

Hurricane-force gusts and waves coming from an unexpected angle likely contributed to the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald, researchers say.

“During the late afternoon and early evening of Nov. 10, 1975, conditions deteriorated rapidly with winds in excess of 69 mph, hurricane-force gusts [over 74 mph] and waves more than 25 feet high,” said Thomas Hultquist, science and operations officer at the NOAA National Weather Service forecast office in Negaunee, Mich.

Waves travelled west-to-east, the new analysis shows. This could have created a hazardous rolling motion. The ship sank about 15 miles from Whitefish Bay, with all 29 crew members perishing. - Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society


28 posted on 08/08/2007 4:45:01 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: DB

Stop it - sorry, but that’s one of my (countless) peeves. You are an expert on what moves you, and obviously Gordon did. Artists shouldn’t be writing for the critics or the artsy-fartsy crowd; a song like that was meant to move the masses of non-experts. It means a lot.


29 posted on 08/08/2007 4:49:53 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SunkenCiv

Bookmark


30 posted on 08/08/2007 4:49:55 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: ken5050

We have a friend who’s a Merchant Marine. He’s worked mostly in trans-Atlantic, trans-Pacific and the Gulf of Mexico. But this winter he did a stint on the Great Lakes. His words, “Never again.” He said in his 35 years of experience, it was the hardest duty he’d ever done.


31 posted on 08/08/2007 4:54:11 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: SunkenCiv
The life ring

I'm glad you posted that picture, I was thinking along the lines of a class ring or fraternity ring that you would have on your finger.........I've never heard the term "life ring" before.

32 posted on 08/08/2007 4:58:29 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Hatred of a person, place or religion is bigotry. Does God condemn hatred or bigotry?)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
What I meant was I think the words are very well written beyond the beauty of the music. My writing skills are poor and I don’t know the ins and outs of great writing but I find the lyrics of the song very impressive. Others more knowledgeable with great literature/writing may not be so impressed when compared to others works...
33 posted on 08/08/2007 5:02:25 AM PDT by DB
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To: woofer
from Mackinaw (Soo Locks) to the Duluth Coal Docks

I grew up on Lake Charlevoix and used to watch the smaller coal freighters sail up the lake from Charlevoix and dump coal at the local tannery in Boyne City. They'd also make a first stop at the power plant in Advance. This was back in the 50's

34 posted on 08/08/2007 5:06:51 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (?)
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To: sergeantdave

It was a very long ship and it was fully loaded. Speculation was that the large swells/waves lifted both ends without any support in the middle and the ship buckled in the center. Once it buckled water came rushing in rapidly and it sank very quickly.


35 posted on 08/08/2007 5:07:43 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB
OK - like I said, pet peeve of mine. I so hate it when say architects design buildings that are solely intended to turn on others in the elitist architecture clique, rather then make any attempt to please the people who will be working in and passing by the building the majority of their lives. I see your point. But damn, if

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours

Isn't two lines of great literature, then I don't care what is.

36 posted on 08/08/2007 5:12:54 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SunkenCiv; MotleyGirl70; Larry Lucido; Mr. Brightside; Rb ver. 2.0

ELIANE: I love Edmund Fitzgerald’s voice.


37 posted on 08/08/2007 5:13:32 AM PDT by Cagey (Many go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.......Thoreau)
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To: RushLake

We were just at the museum last week. Great place and worth the trip. Weirdly, I was just thinking a couple of days ago about finding a life ring from the Fitz.

I have great admiration for the men who brave the sea, whether it be our Navy or for commerce.


38 posted on 08/08/2007 5:14:39 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Awesome!


39 posted on 08/08/2007 5:15:09 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (WARNING: Dangerous to pregnant women and small children. May burst into flames at any time.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I was a barracks Sgt. at Keesler AFB in November 1975 and in my wing was a young man from Michigan that joined the USAF because he wanted to get away from his family's heritage of working on boats. When the news of the Edmund Fitzgerald reached the MSM he was distraught and I had to help him get emergency leave to go back home. He lost several close friends and relatives on the Edmund Fitzgerald. God Bless you Koske wherever you are...
40 posted on 08/08/2007 5:17:25 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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