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(Then & Now) WWII Nazi-Muslim SS Terrorist Divisions, Islamic Fundamentalists from Bosnia & Kosovo
Red State ^ | May 13, 2007 | Demophilus

Posted on 08/10/2007 1:04:26 PM PDT by Bokababe

The connection between the Islamofacists and the NAZI's can no longer be denied. They (Bosnian Muslims & Albanian Muslims) even revived the old infamous ISLAMIC-NAZI WAFFEN SS TERRORIST HANDZAR DIVISION well known for it's savage brutality towards the Jews, Christians, and Gypsies during World War. This is the same group of people the US government now backs in the Balkans.

This is a pro-Al-Qaeda policy put in place by the Clinton Administration and foolishly continued by the Bush State Department.We are currently aiding and abetting the same exact genocidal side that the NAZI Germans did back in World War 2 if that isn't bad enough we have teamed up with Al Qaeda linked terrorist groups in order to set up an Islamic Republic or two in Europe.....

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichristian; balkans; bosnia; clintonlegacy; croatia; dhimmwit; hoopielite; islam; islamofascists; jihad; redjihad; wot
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To: WaterLane

You’re the one professing love, not me. I am under no such obligation.


41 posted on 08/13/2007 2:09:12 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: WaterLane
"Remember, Bosnians did not go in Serbia to attack Serbs, they came to us."

Now that's funny, pure entertainment.

42 posted on 08/13/2007 2:20:23 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython
Hey Monty: I wonder if Hoplite, who ostensibly is an advocate against reductionism (for example, see post #3 above), ever sees himself guilty of his own reductionists' arguments?
43 posted on 08/13/2007 8:33:05 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: WaterLane
Waterlane: There's always going problems when we have discussions on the "appropriate use of words" in the context of the Balkans. Consider, for example, the following (Judah, 2000)

"I have rejected an old rule by which Serbs from Serbia used to be described as Serbians but Serbs from Bosnia or the old Austro-Hungrarian territories were distinguished by calling them Serbs. Today I believe that such a distinction is confusing, especially since few people know that it ever existed. Another premise which I reject: some believe that citizens of Serbia, be they ethnic Serbs or not, should all be described as Serbian. I do not think that this adds to clarity because it would clearly absurd to describe a Kosvovo Albanian as a Serbian. Likewise, some insist that when writing about Albanians in Kosovo one should always write about ethnic Albanians to distinguish them from Albanians from Albania. I think that Kosovo Albania is often a perfectly suitable alternative and there seems to be no reason for dogmatism over which term to use."

Note that I do no entirely agree with Judah (2000). However, I (and others) think you can see the issue.

44 posted on 08/13/2007 11:48:49 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Hoplite does not bother himself with such inconvenient anomalies ,that would require him to be accountable for his own inability to be consistent in his argumentation.

Better to lose one's self in the simplistic fog of passive denial then to confront the complexities and inconveniences of the truth, that makes it easier for him to live with himself.

46 posted on 08/14/2007 6:59:48 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Banat

Now now Banat, please behave. We don’t want to burden WaterBalls here with any facts now, you’re just going agianst the grain don’t ya know?


47 posted on 08/14/2007 11:39:22 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
"I have rejected an old rule by which Serbs from Serbia used to be described as Serbians but Serbs from Bosnia or the old Austro-Hungrarian territories were distinguished by calling them Serbs."

Who in the hell is Tim Judah to "reject" how people have defined themselves for centuries? What a moron! Tells you a lot about his abilities (or lack thereof) as a historian and author!

48 posted on 08/14/2007 3:14:59 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: WaterLane
Re Abdic, there are quite a few Bosnian Muslims here in the States who disagree with you on Abdic. And who also disagree with you about where Abdic's forces went after the war:

"And this is what i can tell you from my personal experience. I came with my family as a refugee from Bosnia, we were small part of these 70.000 muslims that escaped "modernism" of Alija Izetbegovic and came to Serbia. We were accepted well and treated equally with all other Serbian refugees. Today my family lives in Serbia and has no intention of going back to this "New Bosnia"."

As for Kusturica:

"At the outset of the siege of Sarajevo, Kusturica wrote an impassioned plea in Le Monde for his battered city. Not long after that, Bosnian Muslim irregulars looted the Sarajevo apartment belonging to his parents, who had moved to Montenegro; even his film prizes were taken. A few months later, his father died of a heart attack. ''This war killed him too,'' Kusturica said at the time. And this, perhaps above all, is something he is not willing to forgive Sarajevo for.

''My father was always saying we were Serbs,'' he says, ''but I didn't pay much attention.'' Kusturica finally went to a library and says he confirmed that the Kusturicas had been Orthodox Christian Serbs until, a few centuries ago, a branch of the family converted to Islam when the region was under Ottoman domination. It's a common ancestral story among Bosnia's Muslim Slavs, few of whom consider themselves Serbs because of it. For his part, Kusturica refused to see himself as either a Bosnian Muslim or Serb. Instead, like a good number of Sarajevens, he affirmed his loyalty to the Yugoslav experiment, a complex cultural brew of Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Jews, gypsies -- a mix of religions and ethnicities and historical nationalities that together formed a single nation."

Kusturica's great "sin" was that he still believed in the idea of "Yugoslavia", not in "Milosevic" -- and he could recognize a badly-written narrative about the break-up of Yugoslavia being peddled by the MSM, whee he saw it.

So why aren't you still back in your "beautiful Islamic Bosnia"? Given you helped create it, why would you leave?

49 posted on 08/14/2007 3:37:25 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
"Who in the hell is Tim Judah to "reject" how people have defined themselves for centuries..."

I would agree with you.

I would also note that I should have provided the full citation for the Judah (2000) quote above (as there is no link). Specifically, see page xv under Author's Note in:

Judah, T. (2000). The Serbs: History, Myth and the Destruction of Yugoslavia (2nd edition). New Haven: Yale University Press.

50 posted on 08/14/2007 6:08:52 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: montyspython
On Reductionism

Monty: We're both very clever. That is, we can see such patterns in verbal behavior such as:

Hoplite: "...Just like the Germans, no Bosnian Serb ever saw any of the crimes perpetrated in their midst. And like the Germans, their visions of ethnic supremacy have been turned to ashes."

What else needs to be said in the context of Reductionism or perhaps, Hoplite's underlying motivation?

51 posted on 08/15/2007 12:11:56 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
"Hoplite's underlying motivation?"

Masturbation of his ego.

53 posted on 08/15/2007 9:13:17 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Hoplite
"The audience of those reports hasn’t much matured or grown more sophisticated in the ensuing years, unfortunately."

Really?!?!

Remember when you equated me to Vojislav Seselj,....took me a while to get over that one, Hoplite - if you have the capacity to remember.

Print this out and put it next to your computer my good friend.

54 posted on 08/16/2007 1:01:06 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Bokababe

In this thread: the same five guys who are still fighting wars that happened before we were born. LOL.

At least the Civil War guys generally fuss about ideology rather than ethnicity.


55 posted on 08/16/2007 1:21:22 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

History needs to be accurately accounted for and when attempts to blatantly revise it with outright lying, they should be addressed. I only assume that you would have an issue with the David Irving(s) of the world who peddle such denialist drivel.


57 posted on 08/17/2007 7:35:02 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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