Posted on 08/13/2007 1:35:22 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
there is no information that she was a bad mother or taught her sons anything criminal or immoral...
I am glad that everybody's kids here on FR turned out so great but I happen to work with lots of people that are morally sound that have horrendous children.....
sometimes there is only so much you can do as a parent, especially a single parent....
our local upstanding supervisor of a large suburban school district had his son pull out a gun and kill someone...so yes, it happens....
I don’t buy that. How is it that Asians come here, and yes I do know there are Asian gangs, but the vast majority do excellent in school. The same with people from India. They too have major language issues and we don’t cater to them. The older one was brought here at 4, obivously the younger was born here, neither took advantage of the free education. Yet, the 4 young people they shot did and were going to make something of their lives. The mothers ignorance is astounding. We have lowered the bar so much when it comes to our society and children, all in the name of liberal social experimentation and being PC.
Lets not get into a pity party for the woman. She was here 20 years and she can't speak English!! Wouldn't you say that is probably a major factor in the fact that she could not do anything other than a "hard physical job"? People from all over the world come here, don't speak english yet they manage to learn it in less than 20 years and do fine. We seem to forgive this when latinos are involved. With all of the assistance they get through the schools and churches etc., they never seem to take advantage of it. Why? We constantly hear how we are a nation of immigrants and we compare these poor latinos to our ancestors. My grandfather came here ALONE at 15. He did not have a high school education, came here from Italy, learned to speak english by himself and by the time he was 30 owned a business and real estate. English was the ONLY language spoken at home even though my grandmother is also Italian. He is dead now but I would guess he wanted to be an American and appreciated the freedom that America had to offer him and he took advantage of it instead of coming here and expecting America and Americans to take care of him. And one other thing, any mother who is so ignorant to what her 15 year old child is doing is a bad mother.
Reagan amnesty was in 1986. Technically, it was the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty. And even then, it took them four years to pass it. So we are not through with Kennedy-Kyl yet.
When an illegal alien has a baby on American soil, they immediately go to the head of the line and are granted legal permanent residency. I suspect that is the case with this woman. The key element that makes me assume she entered illegally is that she came through Mexico. Legal entrants from Nicaragua do not have to take that middle passage. I am reasonably sure she is legal now, but I am also reasonably sure she arrived here illegally.
Thank you for your post, Cherry. From what you said, you seem clearly a decent and compassionate person. Believe it or not, I strive to be that, as well. But I stumble over horrific events and outrageous behavior, not just the behavior of perpetrators of heinous crimes, but the self-serving government establishment that enables such criminal behavior. Perhaps, in the final analysis, Gloria will prove to be legal (although I doubt it), and she will be the one exception to the rule: a hard-working woman battling enormous odds against poverty and the huge demands of parental responsibility (although I doubt that, as well). To the degree that your post suggests moderation on my part, I agree, and I thank you again for calling mercy to the table. Let the case unfold; let us learn what we will learn.
You clearly see what you want to see.
susie
AH, yes. Have a nice, if myopic, life, sue.
Yep. Possibly the bigotry is yours.
Why are you here on free republic if you want to defend illegals and murderers?
If you take a deep breath and an unbiased look, you'll find that I'm not defending illegals or murderers on this thread. As it happens, I am defending somebody who apparently is here legally.
I will, however, stand by my assertion that bigots have infested this thread, and FR in general. It's pretty disgusting.
“I regret ever coming to the United States,” she said
Other than this it is clear that every word she speaks is a lie.
Get out then, you useless woman. Get out and stay out. Your little bambinos will have to stay however, since they will have long and hopefully miserable prison sentences to serve.
Godinez became a fugitive when he failed to appear before Superior Court Judge Garry Furnari on the Irvington indictment.
On the night of the schoolyard homicides, Godinez was believed living on Midland Place in Newark. Previously he had lived at the Ivy Hill Park apartments, near the scene of the killings.
Yesterday, a manager at the apartment complex said Godinez' mother, Gloria Gomez, and her two sons were thrown out of the Ivy Hill Park apartments in 2005.
Security officers at the complex found her younger son and some friends inside an empty apartment, damaging the premises, said Joe Catano, assistant administrator for the apartment. The son was charged with malicious mischief, Catano said.
Then managers found his mother living in a different unit, under someone else's name, Catano said.
"Both kids were nothing but trouble," Catano said of Godinez and his younger brother.
Gomez then moved to the second-floor apartment of a house on nearby Midland Place. The owner of that house, who refused to give his name, said she paid $975 a month in rent and was a good tenant.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=197061
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