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Race study cries foul over umpires' calls
Associated Press ^ | 8/14/07 | Danny Davis

Posted on 08/14/2007 6:51:36 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan

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To: Cat loving Texan

And the NFL is only going after bad-behaving black players.


21 posted on 08/14/2007 7:06:13 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: Cat loving Texan

Horsesh*t


23 posted on 08/14/2007 7:06:54 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Ron Paul: the candidate of cowardice and appeasement.)
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To: EyeGuy
Took the words right out of my mouth.

Tom Glavine was one of the beneficiaries of this...until he got to the Mets!

24 posted on 08/14/2007 7:07:35 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Cat loving Texan
I would like to see electronic devices that could measure the pitches. We have the technology to do this.
25 posted on 08/14/2007 7:08:21 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: j. earl carter

“If it was a strike, Mr. Boggs would have swung at it.” I forget the Umpire’s name.


26 posted on 08/14/2007 7:09:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: CholeraJoe

Your guess is as good as mine.

Lol


27 posted on 08/14/2007 7:09:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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To: Cat loving Texan

First off I call BS on this article because it is in the Austin Unamerican Statesrag, the most liberal newspaper in Texas. Second off the research was done by a professor at UT, the most liberal university in Texas!

As someone whose son plays Little League baseball I can tell you that more than 75 percent of the time kids his age (9) can’t hit the strike zone regardless of their race.

I guess we can look forward to some professor somewhere telling us next that white football official call more penalties on black players than white players!


28 posted on 08/14/2007 7:10:02 AM PDT by TexanByBirth (San Antonio Spurs - 2007 NBA Champions!)
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To: Artemis Webb

You took the words out of my mouth ..Thank you.


29 posted on 08/14/2007 7:11:07 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Cat loving Texan

Let’s also analyze where these data are compiled. Do pitchers of the home team receive better calls regardless of race? The home crowd pays for the win and if you check the stats on teams winning at home or on the road.


30 posted on 08/14/2007 7:15:24 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (This week, the Carolina Classic at Greensboro)
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To: Cat loving Texan

How large was the federal research grant the professor received for conducting this study?


31 posted on 08/14/2007 7:17:42 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Cat loving Texan
To the prof who did this study....


32 posted on 08/14/2007 7:17:46 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Cat loving Texan

This is just about making me ashamed of my BSME from UT. I may just turn the framed diploma around against the wall.


33 posted on 08/14/2007 7:19:15 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Cat loving Texan
This is worthless, since it considers only white umpires. Just think how the conclusion could change otherwise-- if they call the same way then, it could well be that white pitchers throw (slightly) more strikes (which doesn't mean they're better pitchers, but that doesn't matter).

What worries me is that the article doesn't mention when they dropped the other umpires from the study, or whether they considered the races of the batters. If they neglected these things from the start, then the experiment was ill-designed and worthless from the start. If they looked at these things and then dropped them, then the report is dishonest.
34 posted on 08/14/2007 7:19:40 AM PDT by xenophiles
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... in the 11 ballparks that use the QuesTec system to track the location of every pitch and every umpire's call ..... the researchers found less racial bias.

Translation - "When we use accurate data our results are shown to be influenced by the testers expectations and completely invalid. But hey, they serve our purpose by getting an AP headline."

35 posted on 08/14/2007 7:19:45 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: MrB
perhaps the number differences are statistically insignificant.

Who makes the judgment calls on the umpire's judgment calls?

Ever umpire behind the plate? Every pitch requires concentration on where the ball is throw.

A 90+ mph fastball does not give you time for basis for or against the pitcher or batter.

Who paid for this BS survey?

Follow the money trail!

36 posted on 08/14/2007 7:21:07 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Cat loving Texan

I’d rather watch women’s beach volleyball.


37 posted on 08/14/2007 7:23:26 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: j. earl carter

That’s the second study due when they see how this plays out.


38 posted on 08/14/2007 7:25:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Cat loving Texan

Since Michael Jordan was never called for fouling or traveling what color does that make him?


39 posted on 08/14/2007 7:29:03 AM PDT by sticker
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Playing a catcher a long, long time ago, I knew a couple of things, NONE of them race-related.

1) Piss off the umpire and the strike zone 'could' become the size of a postage stamp.

2) Have the other team piss off the umpire and have a strike zone the size of Texas.

But I never saw an ump call a game based on race before.

40 posted on 08/14/2007 7:29:08 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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