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Olmert’s goal: Permanent agreement with Palestinians by November
YNet ^ | Aug. 16, 2007 | Shimon Shiffer

Posted on 08/16/2007 7:53:38 AM PDT by Alouette

PM, Abbas meeting in recent months to resolve core issues, including Jerusalem, refugees and permanent borders before US-brokered conference of Mideast nations in Washington

Shimon Shiffer Published: 08.16.07, 09:38 / Israel News

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas have been meeting regularly in recent months with the aim of drafting the principles of a permanent agreement before the US-brokered conference of Mideast nations, which is scheduled to take place in Washington this coming November, Yedioth Ahronot reported on Thursday.

Sources close to Abbas said the two leaders have been holding the talks in a genuine effort to resolve the core issues, mainly Jerusalem, the Palestinian refugees and the permanent borders between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

On Tuesday Olmert met with a House of Representatives delegation, headed by majority leader Steny Hoyer (Dem.) of Maryland, to discuss the peace process with the Palestinians.

During the meeting the Israeli prime minister declared that he had been meeting with Abbas in order to “agree on principles regarding the core issues that will lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, including the borders, Jerusalem, the refugees, exchanges of land, the passageway between Gaza and the West Bank and the nature of the relations between Israel and the future Palestinian state”.

Joint control over Temple Mount

Olmert told the Americans that he did not believe the agreement would be implemented immediately, but added that Abbas would be able to hold a referendum to approve it.

“Abbas is the first Palestinian leader since the talks with the Palestinian leadership began who is interested in changing the reality,” Olmert was quoted as saying by those who attended the meeting.

“He wants peace with Israel, but on his terms, which we do not accept.”

During the talks Olmert told the Palestinian president Israel would not cooperate with him if a unity government with Hamas is established.

Based on past statements by Omert and his deputy, Tzipi Livni, Israel would apparently agree to return more than 90 percent of the West Bank in the framework of a permanent agreement and allow the Palestinians to create a corridor between Gaza and the West Bank.

In return for holding on to large Jewish settlement blocs in the West Bank, Olmert would likely agree to give up some parts of the Negev to the Palestinians. In the past the prime minister hinted to the possibility of transferring a number of east Jerusalem neighborhoods to the control of a future Palestinian state.

It is estimated that Olmert would also be willing to discuss joint control over the Temple Mount complex.

Regarding the Palestinian refugees, Olmert is expected to adopt Livni’s solution, which states that they would be permitted to return to the future Palestinian state but not to Israel.


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What this really means: WAR BEFORE NOVEMBER
1 posted on 08/16/2007 7:53:39 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 08/16/2007 7:56:23 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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My understanding of the Koran is that Muslims will negotiate if it works to their advantage, but they will not keep the treaty since the goal is world wide spread of thier faith which is what the jihad is all about. So once they have joint control of the Temple Mount and Jerusalem at some point they will fight to gain control over the whole enchilada.
Don’t negotiate with terrorists!


3 posted on 08/16/2007 7:57:03 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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Permanent!!! Did they really say permanent?!! Is that like for a whole day in pali-speak?


4 posted on 08/16/2007 7:57:17 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
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Olmert’s goal: Permanent agreement with Palestinians by November

The longest Muslims are allowed to make a hudna (truce) with non-Muslims is ten years or until they feel like breaking it, whichever comes first.

5 posted on 08/16/2007 7:57:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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Israel would apparently agree to return more than 90 percent of the West Bank in the framework of a permanent agreement and allow the Palestinians to create a corridor between Gaza and the West Bank.

Do they honestly think this would be a solution? Everyone would say, "Yippee! It's all over! Now we can stop blowing ourselves up and get jobs!"?

Either they're insane, or they're incredibly disingenuous ... or I don't understand what's going on at all (always a possibility ...).

6 posted on 08/16/2007 7:59:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Don't like my attitude? Call 1-800-GET-A-DOG.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Whenever some really stupid Israeli leader is about to give away the store, the G-D of Israel intervenes and causes the Palestinians to reject the deal and start a war.

“The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”


7 posted on 08/16/2007 7:59:18 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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Is that like for a whole day in pali-speak?

It's "until we gain a tactical advantage from the truce".

8 posted on 08/16/2007 7:59:19 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Alouette

Israel has found her Jimmy Carter. Let’s hope that this results in her next finding her Ronald Reagan.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 8:03:57 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Saudi Arabia is the grown-up version of an imaginary friend." --Dennis Miller)
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To: MrB

Let’s see, Israel is giving up 90% of the west bank, parts of the Negev (maybe Ben Gurian’s kibbutz, just for the symbolism?), the right to control the Temple Mount (If the Muslims have ANY say, they will VETO everything advantageous to Israel)—have we left anything out?

Maybe Israel can give up the Golan, too.

In exchange, the Palestinian authority will agree to look like it is doing something about rockets fired at Israel;

will agree to stop referring in English (but not in Arabic) to the destruction of Israel;

will cut all (public) ties with terror and react with semi-stern words when a terror attack takes place (but not agree to cease furnishing terrorists with havens, or to arrest them, or to prosecute them);

and proceed to the next step in the step-by-step destruction of Israel.

Sounds like something Olmert would agree to, all right...


10 posted on 08/16/2007 8:05:01 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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"Olmert's goal: Permanent agreement with Palestinians by November"

What it should read: "Olmerde's goal: Give away Israel to the Amalekstinians by November"
11 posted on 08/16/2007 8:10:27 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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WAR BEFORE NOVEMBER

BTTT!

12 posted on 08/16/2007 8:12:29 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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Laughable.

15 posted on 08/16/2007 8:27:51 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: Esther Ruth; lightingguy

Ping (not sure if you’re on Alouette’s or SJackson’s list)

Ping to you too LG - pursuant to our discussion last night (look, he said “temple mount”).


16 posted on 08/16/2007 9:14:29 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Alouette

Palestinians’ goal: Continuing war/intifada/hudna, corruption, kleptocracy, terror support, etc.


17 posted on 08/16/2007 9:30:48 AM PDT by Cecily
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....Or a vote of no confidence in the parliment of Isreal by November, forcing general elections at an earlier date then 2010. In other words, expect a major comeback of Bibi.


18 posted on 08/16/2007 9:33:49 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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LOL we’ll see


19 posted on 08/16/2007 9:34:22 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Alouette

When can Israelis vote Olmert out of office?


20 posted on 08/16/2007 9:36:39 AM PDT by twigs
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