RON PAUL DEFRAUDED BY IOWA STRAW POLL PROCESS -- Part I (LAUGH ALERT)

RawStory.com is an extremist far left "news" spin/propaganda site.

It surprises me not at all (unfortunately) to see a Ron Paul supporter automatically dipping into that particular poisoned well.

Paul supporters, please tell me this guy doesn't represent your opinion.
Okay...His opinions are his and nobody can represent "my opinion" but me. If you want my opinion on something you have but to ask.
A real "DUH" moment you've got there.

Since this was just a straw poll, does that make this just straw fraud?

I don’t like Ron Paul but I dislike cooked elections even less.

Making a big deal about minor grammatical issues in the writings of someone you are debating makes you look like a moron who has no strong arguments of your own.
BITE MY POSTERIOR!
I'm trying to clarify what she's talking about, not making a big deal about minor grammatical issues.
Can you tell what she's talking about? Do you know what "it" is genius?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Earth to Ron Paul supporters — IT IS A PRIVATE FUNCTION.

Request a $35 refund from the GOP and call it a day.

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I don’t like Ron Paul but I dislike cooked elections even less.

I agree with the sentiment, but this wasn't an election. No one won an office or position. It was merely a poll. And, the entire article is written by a real kook who's been on the voter fraud bandwagon (as well as 9/11 being set up by Zionists) for years. I'd take his rantings with a grain of salt, if I were you. For confirmation of this, see some of the links I and others posted down thread.

Even the birchers aren't buying.

Final Observations on Ron Paul and the Iowa Straw Poll

By Brian Farmer
Published: 2007-08-16 21:40

http://www.jbs.org/node/5162

ARTICLE SYNOPSIS:

Ron Paul's fifth place finish in the Iowa Straw Poll is being called into question by some of his supporters, as voting machine failures and fuzzy figures raise suspicions of vote fraud. But potential vote fraud wasn't the only matter that was worthy of concern at this year's event in Ames.
Follow this link to the original source: "Evidence Suggests Ron Paul Was Cheated"

COMMENTARY:

There is plenty of expert testimony indicating that electronic voting machines can be rigged to yield a desired outcome. However, the circumstantial evidence presented in the linked article does not exactly represent a smoking gun. In fact, some of it can easily be explained away. For example, the article notes that 26,000 tickets were sold, but that only 14,302 actual votes were cast. However, one needs to first understand that almost none of the voters buy their own tickets. They are bought by the various candidates’ campaigns and then distributed freely to supporters. This year, there were at least two obvious reasons why thousands of "free" tickets would have gone unused: 1) three of the top contenders (Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Fred Thompson) declined to participate, so many Iowans would have lost interest in coming out to vote, and 2) on the day of the event, the heat was unbearable.
It’s claimed that some exit polls even showed that Ron Paul had won. However, sources who attended the Iowa Straw Poll said that the Ron Paul exit pollers were obvious supporters of the Ron Paul campaign, hence, supporters of other campaigns might not have spoken to them, and might have even avoided them. Naturally, that would skew the result of any exit poll. Sources close to the Ron Paul campaign say staffers do not believe that the voting was significantly erroneous and they are satisfied with the 9% that Ron Paul received.
In fact, if anybody should be complaining about possible vote tampering, it should be the Mitt Romney campaign. After all, they had spent enormous amounts of money and time in Iowa and were predicted to win by as much as an 8 to 1 margin over the runner-up. In the end, however, Romney won by less than a 2 to 1 margin over Mike Huckabee. Meanwhile, Ron Paul more than quadrupled the 2% he was polling just a week before the event. Go figure!
And while the two “fuzzy math” examples in the linked article do appear to thicken the plot, it’s going to take a lot more than creative arithmetic to prove that any kind of vote fraud actually took place.
Another thing that was disconcerting to observe was Laura Ingraham's performance as Master of Ceremonies. With her snide remarks about Ron Paul and his supporters, for example, she acted as though she were the MC at a celebrity roast. President Ronald Reagan once noted that the eleventh commandment was to never criticize a fellow Republican. Given that, it’s hard to believe that Ms. Ingraham actually worked as a speechwriter in the White House near the end of the Reagan administration.
Finally, my brother, who had extensive security experience during his two decades in the U.S. military, quickly made another disturbing observation. After we got our press credentials at the media registration table (we were covering the Iowa Straw Poll for The New American magazine), we passed through the media entrance and made our way to the floor of the coliseum, whereupon we were escorted to the camera area reserved for the media directly in front of the stage. My brother immediately commented that at no time had we passed through a metal detector, nor had our bags been searched. He went down the line, asking everyone else if they had been searched. Nobody had, and the realization of how easy it would have been to bring in guns and/or explosives stunned everyone. We certainly hope that the organizers of the Iowa Straw Poll remedy that dangerous lapse next time around!

Brian Farmer

Brian is a Research Associate of the John Birch Society.

Again, I'm here for entertainment purposes only.
You and Jackson have much in common. That's what he always says as well.

You'll like this one from his Dennis Miller interview.

Ron Paul: If you understand what motivates suicide terrorism, you'll realize it's not radical Islam. The most motivating factor is that fact they are being occupied by a foreign force. They cannot mobilize, they cannot recruit. So we are serving the interests of Osama Bin Laden by him getting more recruits than ever before. Yes, there would be problems in the Middle East when we leave. Everybody knows we're gonna leave because we're gonna go broke; we won't be able to afford it! All empires end because they eventually go broke. But who knows, there may be a tremendous incentive for them to settle their disputes. Already there's a large number, it's not the majority of them, of the members serving in the Parliament, Sunni's and Shiites, that are talking to each other! And they're getting ready to vote to ask us to leave. The Arab League could fill the vacuum; and they offered some peace treaties with Israel that are very attractive; by recognizing Israel. All kinds of good things can happen.

Dennis Miller: I think it turns into a slaughterhouse.

Ron Paul: After Vietnam that did not happen, which what was predicted; we're trading partners and they're capitalistic now, more so than ever before! So, there's reason to be pessimistic.
Ron Paul

No slaughter of civilians after our withdrawl from Vietnam.

Even George McGovern recognized the slaughter that was taking place, and ironically advocated US military force to end it.

>>Hear ye! Hear ye! The Ron Paul Campaign has confirmed to callers what was repeated at the event itself — that the campaign bought and gave away 800 tickets. The “Adopt an Iowan group” (an independent effort) has published that they had collected $22,500 and purchased 643 tickets. (By the way, since the “Adopt and Iowan” page won’t allow you to copy it, I have printed it out to preserve the documentation.)

So now we are being asked to believe that Ron Paul got less votes (1305) than the tickets purchased by the campaign and the “Adopt an Iowan” campaign (totally 1443) – and that NO ONE in Iowa came on their own to pay $35 and vote for Ron Paul !!!!!<<

I would think it more likely the campaign screwed up and gave ticket to the wrong people.

not to mention, any time you have to pay to vote, its not a real. legal election -it a private thing.

Close your eyes and he sounds just like John Kerry.

Ron Paul and Kucinich... Hmmm, Who do they remimd me of?

:)

Honestly bcsco, I could give a rat's rear about Ron Paul or this particular story. Fact of the matter is the demoncraps have for years cooked the books so to speak when it comes to elections. From buying votes by setting up sanctuary cities and the promise of amnesty for those that have already broken our laws to busing in homeless people and paying for their votes by supplying them with cigarettes in Milwaukee, and on and on and on.... I have to say I sand by my original "dislike for cooked elections."

Thanks for citing the other posts and links though. I do appreciate it.

EWT

The World Tyranny Ruling Elite ....

Cool, I want to join THAT club.

Holding up well . . . we followed your advice, about then being the time to love and now being the time to grieve, and knowing that we made the most of his time is a help. I ordered his urn today - it’s a little cedar box shaped like a treasure chest.

Thank you so much for asking. I owe you, like, a month of Nick’s trivia nights. ;)

Did you finish “Deathly Hallows” before you left?

No slaughter of civilians after our withdrawl from Vietnam.
Wasn't it in Cambodia that the slaughter of civilians happened and wasn't it done by Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge?
I'm not aware of any "slaughter of civilians" in Vietnam after our withdrawal.

I have to say I sand by my original "dislike for cooked elections."

That's fine. And I have to stand by my reply...there's little-to-no proof this was rigged. That was my point.

BITE MY POSTERIOR!

I'll pass. Thanks anywise.

I'm trying to clarify what she's talking about, not making a big deal about minor grammatical issues. Can you tell what she's talking about? Do you know what "it" is genius?

Actually, yes. He/She (sorry Allegra, don't know which) was making the point that, even if Ron Paul somehow did get a lick of sense and drop out of the GOP nomination race, the RonPaulies would still hang around and try to stir the pot for him, anywise.

Even George McGovern recognized the slaughter that was taking place, and ironically advocated US military force to end it.

George McGovern's call to invade Cambodia: What it tells us about Iraq
“Do we sit on the sidelines and watch a population slaughtered, or do we marshal military force and put an end to it?” -- Senator George McGovern, August 21, 1978
The “it” McGovern wanted US troops to put an end to was the killing of millions of Cambodians in the late 1970s by the communist Pol Pot dictatorship.