RON PAUL DEFRAUDED BY IOWA STRAW POLL PROCESS -- Part I (LAUGH ALERT)

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[wideawake]

Well.....it might be fun for Paul dectractors but even his strongest critics admit that he has nothing to do with encouraging this complaint

Of course he encourages it.

He himself said that "if" there are questions about the voting, then "the questions must be asked."

[mnehring]

..can we actually consider what Paul believes on the issues?

I like to look at how someone actually votes, not what they 'say'.. so, let's look at how Paul actually votes..

Ron Paul's Voting Record

Here are some ‘Conservative(sic)’ votes by Paul:

(of course, Paulites have an excuse for each of these.. something about Paul making a point of State versus Federal or there must be something in the bill he didn' like or the bill smelled like shrimp.. yadda, yadda, yadda.. if they were votes by anyone else, they would use the votes to prove that person was a RINO.)

Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes.

Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research.

Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion.

Voted YES on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons.

Voted NO on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime.

Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism.

Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror.

Voted NO on allowing vouchers in DC schools.

Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy.

Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy.

Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump.

Voted NO on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects.

Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding.

Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations.

Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers.

Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers

Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.

Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.

Voted NO on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan.

Voted NO on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill.

Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers.

Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers.

Voted NO on promoting work and marriage among TANF recipients.

Voted NO on treating religious organizations equally for tax breaks.

Let's also not forget Paul's Pork Projects (that he voted for before he voted against when he calls them unconstitutional but he is just playing the game when he submits them because everyone else does it.. yadda yadda yadda..)

[wideawake]

Answer: you can’t because he has denounced this complaint.

Oh, please document that one.

[mnehring]

Answer: you can’t because he has denounced this complaint.

Is this like how he 'denounced' 9/11Truthers yet continues to frequent their radio programs and give them interviews?

[bcsco]

Methinks thou are on the wrong thread. This one has much more....well, offerings.

[Captain Kirk]

Wrong. The difference between Paul and leftist rightest big government moonbats like Romney, is that Paul has the best record (according to National Taxpayers Union) of voting against spending and taxes than any other member of Congress.

[wideawake]

Paul has the best record (according to National Taxpayers Union) of voting against spending and taxes than any other member of Congress

See post 22 for Ron Paul's left wing voting record.

[bcsco]

Break out the popcorn...Heck, this rates a bourbon! But only one :)

[FormerACLUmember]

The American Psychiatric Association is considering adding “Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome” as a variant manifestation of Delusional Disorder.

[Allegra]

Well.....it might be fun for Paul dectractors but even his strongest critics admit that he has nothing to do with encouraging this complaint, precisely the opposite. Now.....can we actually consider what Paul believes on the issues?

Oh, I long ago stated my opposition to Paul's issues - repeatedly. And my opinions were primarily met with personal insults from the Paulies.

I'm on vacation now. I'm just here for the fun.

You guys can be all serious and stuff if you want.

I'll get the popcorn going.

[bcsco]

I’m sending my five bucks to Bev Harris as we speak...

Ron Paul is only $10 away from winning the Iowa straw poll.

[Artemis Webb]

Bump for Entertainment!

[Captain Kirk]

Cute but dishonest. Paul is a states righter, therefore he believes, for example, the states not the federal government should define marriage and abortion policy. He also rejects big government compassionate conservatism. Now....you may be an advocate of federal supremacy. That’s fine. Why not just be honest about it? The hard truth is that the National Taxpayers Union rates Paul at 90 percent or higher. Now other candidate in the race comes even close to that record.

[marsh_of_mists]

The American Psychiatric Association is considering adding “Ron Paul Derangement Syndrome” as a variant manifestation of Delusional Disorder.

There seems to be a lot of that going around on Free Republic and it's not from the Ron Paul supporters.

[roses of sharon]

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_teams_up_with_kucinich_to_end_war.htm

RP, Alex Jones, and Kucinich; on the “issues”.

[Allegra]

Without these guys, where would the laughs be?

They really are fun, aren't they?

When Paul crashes and burns somewhere early in the primaries, I'm going to kind of miss them.

Kind of like how you miss a nagging tooth that finally gets pulled. ;-)

[dennisw]

The Ron Paul loon-a-tics will be bombarding the internet with their vitriol and conspiracies

WE WUZ ROBBED !!!!! !!!!

[Captain Kirk]

Personal insults? My message had no personal insults....What is your point? Guilt by association? Believe it or not, not all Paul supporters, nor dare I say all supporters of your candidate, engage in personal insults. We also don’t use that fact to avoid dialogue.

[mnehring]

Actually, the National Taxpayer’s Union most recent rating gives Paul a 84% which is below McCain (88%) and about the same as most of the other candidates running (with the exception of Hunter who rated 62%)

Paulites often misrepresent the Percent A’s score (which he is tied with Tancredo on) as his congressional rating. This is more a representation of how long he has been in congress more than being ‘tops’ every year. Considering Paul has been in congress since they started rating in 92 (few of the others have), even with his average percent in the 80s, he is naturally going to have a score for longer..

http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=97

[mnehring]

I am so glad you made this point because this is a perfect example about how Paul cares more about the game than he does the issue. The abortion issue is a perfect example. Let’s contrast this with Fred (as I know you are also a Fredhead.)

Fred Thompson is a strong Federalist and his voting record shows it, yet, when some of the same Abortion issues came to his vote, he didn’t quibble with if it was a State or Federal right, he voted Pro-Life. He felt ending abortion was more important than making some point.

When faced with the same choice, Paul chose to not vote Pro-Life and instead, thought it was more important to make some State’s right point than actually do something that would save a life...