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1 posted on 08/20/2007 6:26:10 AM PDT by John Galt 72
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To: John Galt 72
The President is NOT a moral leader. I don't look to politicians for moral leadership. People who want to do that should look to their clergy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 08/20/2007 6:30:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: John Galt 72

The next President can do more to revive morals in this country than any President in modern history. Changing the makeup of the Supreme Court to stop the judicial tyranny of liberal activist judges will help to achieve that. It will take a generation to become evident, but it will happen.

The inability of some to see beyond the ‘here and now’ always amazes me. If it isn’t going to happen next Tuesday, it’s not going to make a difference what anyone does. That’s just silly.


3 posted on 08/20/2007 6:30:43 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (President Hunter should appoint Senator Katherine Harris to his cabinet!)
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To: John Galt 72

Let the Lord use us to reach others on his behalf. That is what sparks a moral revival. Christ. Every Christian should reach out in love . . .


5 posted on 08/20/2007 6:33:55 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is the conservative in the race.)
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To: John Galt 72

I’m looking for the next President to lead in the War on Islamists, provide a plan for energy needs for the 21st century, lead on comprehensive tort reform, and propose a coherent plan for social security and immigration. Morality is up to each and every citizen.


7 posted on 08/20/2007 6:35:56 AM PDT by sono ("I'm glad I don't play anymore. I could never learn all those handshakes." Phil Rizzuto)
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To: John Galt 72

Fred T to evangelicals:

“I chased a lot of women, and a lot of women chased me,” Thompson told Republican congressmen earlier this year. “And those that chased me tended to catch me.”

Nice family values.


8 posted on 08/20/2007 6:37:52 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: John Galt 72

We need to not just get a victory in 2008, but we need to look beyond Bush and focus on the long term vision of the Conservative movement. Each of the candidates running have good attributes, and maybe just maybe a few of them have what it takes to beat Hillary, but where will they take the party?

Is this just about beating Hillary? Yea, we get some sweet revenge, but we could also get four years of more of the same, politics as usual in Washington D.C. . Or is this about a rediscovery of our values and our common sense as a Nation, and the resurgence of national pride? We need the President to be the “Nations President” once again.

It’s been written not long after the mess in Florida with the hanging chads, that to half the Nation, President Bush was their President, but to the other half he was not President at all. We can as Americans no longer afford to have that sort of a divide between our people.
Ronald Reagan said he left the entertainment world for politics because he wanted to protect something precious. Well the office of President is something precious and the respect for it should be preserved. The President once again needs to be “Our President”, weather you voted for him or not. Out of all the potential presidential candidates, Fred Thompson is the one that can unite us and move us forward to better things.

In President Reagan’s Farewell Address he said, “I wasn’t a great communicator, but I communicated great things.” Fred Thompson is a communicator of great things and I am honored to be behind him.


12 posted on 08/20/2007 6:43:55 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: John Galt 72
That, say this friend and many other social conservatives, is not the kind of man we want to elect to lead a moral nation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This friend. Interesting Source. Calabrese likely still has conversations with the same imaginary friend he had when he was 4 years old. Moonbats!

Another propaganda ploy, trying to use the morality of conservatives against them in order to create disunity among them.

The truth is that we do have a candidate who fits the presidential shoes very well.

Its not Fahred, nor Rooty Tootsie.

His name is Duncan Hunter. If you have not heard of him, visit his web page.

Go Duncan Hunter!

http://www.gohunter08.com/

14 posted on 08/20/2007 6:47:47 AM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: John Galt 72

Whose morals?


17 posted on 08/20/2007 6:56:40 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger; jellybean; 2ndDivisionVet

ping!


24 posted on 08/20/2007 7:09:31 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: John Galt 72

Charles Barkley once said he was NOT a role model, but we all knew he was, because of his status and celebrity. We get down on those guys when our culture elevates them and then they act like trash. How much more so then, should the President of the United States be a role model? More than a role model, they are moral barometers of the state of this nation. This is so because we as a people must choose if we care about the moral integrity of the person we choose to lead us.

Many on this board discussed how terrible it was that Bill Clinton was such a poor moral role model. Are so of those same ones now taking the opposite position when the fellow THEY want to build a “Cult of Personality” around has led a less than wholesome life?

I don’t trust Mitt Romney, but I know his wife can trust him, and I respect that. If a man’s wife can’t trust him, how can I?

There are candidates in this race whose personal lives are exemplary and models of virtue. I suggest we direct our support toward them.


26 posted on 08/20/2007 7:17:32 AM PDT by Hail Spode
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To: John Galt 72

Neither will be elected president.


27 posted on 08/20/2007 7:18:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: John Galt 72

Regardless of moral leadership issues (on which Thompson beats Guliani hands down, IMO), Thompson is by far the better choice to lead the country.

Fred Thompson ‘08!


30 posted on 08/20/2007 7:36:48 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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The president should be a moral leader. The character of the national leader has great impact on the moral life and destiny of the nation.


39 posted on 08/20/2007 8:14:54 AM PDT by Mediahawk
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To: John Galt 72

Simple - just stop subsidizing the consequences for immoral behaviors and choices,

and the immoral behaviors and choices reduce significantly.

This is conservativism 101 - which natural leads to a more moral and responsible culture and nation.


43 posted on 08/20/2007 9:00:15 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: John Galt 72
This is not to say the president’s morality is irrelevant. We don’t want a person who lies, makes insincere promises or has no philosophical core.

But this is exactly what Rudy has done. He cheated on his 2nd wife, hired corrupt associates, and flip-flopped on abortion.

As a conservative-libertarian, I want my leaders to have a moral compass yet at the same time not advance laws that try to legislate it.

46 posted on 08/20/2007 9:21:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: John Galt 72
Yeah, THIS is a respectable leader!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts?page=66#66

Excerpt:

Bad as the 1995 parade was, it was no match for last year's debacle ("Stonewall at 25," October 1994). On June 26, 1994, scores of fully naked men and women marched in an illegal parade yelling "F___ You" at those on the steps of St. Patrick's Cathedral. They masturbated in the street, pointed their middle fingers at the Cathedral, did satanic dances and dressed as cardinals, nuns, and priests. All of this was done in full view of Police Commissioner William Bratton and the New York City police force. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani watched from above in a helicopter. No one was arrested for anything.

...

...(re the '95 parade...): ..."All the usual suspects were there: drag queens, cross-dressers on Rollerblades, the Butch/Femme Society, the sado-macho brigade in black leather, Men of Discipline and other lovely types. Commercialism was most evident as about a third of the floats were sponsored by various gay bars and clubs. Though there were no signs indicating that the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was there, the child molesters were listed in the program..."

...There were men dressed as women and there were fairies on stilts. Hundreds of men wore nothing but jock straps, shaking their bodies to the beat of the blaring rock music. Olympic diving champion Greg Louganis was one of the grand marshals and pop singer Cyndi Lauper danced and sang her hit "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun." Strange looking people were everywhere and often it was difficult to tell whether it was a man or a woman, and in some cases it appeared that it was both. And yes, some of the girls did bare their breasts (a few of them apparently spray painted their chests), but in all fairness it must be said that most of the girls managed to keep their clothes on. The police carried yellow blankets to cover the girls up but decided against using them. Following tradition, no one was arrested.

There's a fat and ugly guy who shows up every year dressed as the pope carrying a sign "My church organ is bigger than yours." He was there again this year. There was one car that passed by with a string of unrelated four letter words and sexual terms on it. Some marchers wore shirts with various vulgarities inscribed on them. There were large pictures of men performing oral sex and there were several examples of men simulating oral sex live atop the floats. The latter exhibition led Norm Siegel of the ACLU to declare "I love watching the First Amendment in action," thus demonstrating how far we've come in our understanding of free speech.

No Gay Pride Parade would be complete without a little Catholic bashing. It should be noted that the place where the march began, 52nd Street, is not a major cross street, making it all the more conspicuous what the intent was in starting there. If Catholic bashing wasn't central to the parade, then surely the request to start the march just south of the Cathedral would have been granted. Indeed, when Janice Thom, the co- chairman of the parade's sponsors, Heritage of Pride, was asked to comment on my statement that her group had deliberately targeted St. Patrick's, she responded briskly, "That's an interesting idea."

The most flagrant anti-Catholicism came from Catholic Ladies for Choice. In this group, there were gays and lesbians dressed as nuns carrying coat hangers and lesbians dressed as nuns carrying tambourines. Most incredible was the gay man who wore a black bra and a black jock strap with a huge set of rosary beads wrapped around his otherwise naked body. There was also someone dressed as the pope with a banner that read, "The Catholic Church, a history of murder, lies, censorship, oppression, and hypocrisy."

And what did Mayor Giuliani have to say about all this? He called it a "very dignified parade."

50 posted on 08/20/2007 11:01:58 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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